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You have carpeting in your bathroom?Last night I dreamed Maura Healey was in my bathroom. I asked her this exact question. She said no.
ATF Claims Soda-launching “Can Cannon” is an SBS or AOW when used
Many of our Gun Trust Clients have purchased a Can Cannon. Previously the use of a Can Cannon was not regulated by the NFA, but recently the ATF determined that the use of the Can Cannon in ...www.google.com
If the ATF defines it as a shotgun, and MA law agrees, then no. The barrel is too short and it’s considered an SBS. Illegal in ma.
ATF Claims Soda-launching “Can Cannon” is an SBS or AOW when used
Many of our Gun Trust Clients have purchased a Can Cannon. Previously the use of a Can Cannon was not regulated by the NFA, but recently the ATF determined that the use of the Can Cannon in ...www.google.com
If the ATF defines it as a shotgun, and MA law agrees, then no. The barrel is too short and it’s considered an SBS. Illegal in ma.
What if the shroud was extended to 18"
ATF Claims Soda-launching “Can Cannon” is an SBS or AOW when used
Many of our Gun Trust Clients have purchased a Can Cannon. Previously the use of a Can Cannon was not regulated by the NFA, but recently the ATF determined that the use of the Can Cannon in ...www.google.com
If the ATF defines it as a shotgun, and MA law agrees, then no. The barrel is too short and it’s considered an SBS. Illegal in ma.
MA law doesn't agree on anything so good luck with that... imho this is no different than a 37mm baton round, or a dude using a grenade launcher the launch dummy grenades I don't think any of that is regulated under mgl if there's no explosive involved in the projectile.ATF Claims Soda-launching “Can Cannon” is an SBS or AOW when used
Many of our Gun Trust Clients have purchased a Can Cannon. Previously the use of a Can Cannon was not regulated by the NFA, but recently the ATF determined that the use of the Can Cannon in ...www.google.com
If the ATF defines it as a shotgun, and MA law agrees, then no. The barrel is too short and it’s considered an SBS. Illegal in ma.
Canyon Yodeler.
@Boris and @PappyM3 Didnt realize the article was that old. I’m wondering if the law only applies to putting the can upper on your own lower? If that’s the case I bet the ones sold online are permanently attached to the lower. Like @drgrant said that laws in ma seem to always differ from the federal ones so who really knows. If it were me, I’d buy it either way just because I’m so sick of this state and their dumb regulations lol. (Not that I’ve ever done that or advise doing that of course )
No, it seems that people are buying this can cannon upper and putting it on whatever lower they want. Federally it doesn’t seem to be regulated anymore.
In MA, it does appear that it may fall under the definition of “firearm”. It’s definitely not a rifle or shotgun though. And it’s not a pistol, even though there is no pistol definition in MA.
That's an old article. Can Cannon’s website currently says ATF declares it neither a firearm nor destructive device.
Oh ok, so federally it’s no problem. This is such a weird product legally speaking I can’t figure out what it falls under in MA. On one hand, (according to Maura) you can’t buy or have a new ar15 lower. If you follow that, the can cannon would have to be put on a pre ban lower. On the other hand, ma law says it isn’t a firearm until it fires a round making the lower legal to have. The ATF says the can cannon upper isn’t regulated and ok to put on a lower, but the lower is still federally a firearm. The question is, in ma is a tennis ball/soda can a round? If no, it’s not a firearm and ok to have. It fires a blank that propels and object (whatever that may be). So what does that mean for concrete nail guns using a .22 blank? This whole thing raises some interesting questions regarding mass law.
Maura is completely wrong that a lower by itself is an AR-15 copy or duplicate.That part of her decree is easily disproven in MGL.
And a can canon on a lower is in no way an AR copy or duplicate.
You’re totally fine putting it on a normal lower, neck even a collapsible stock lower. It does not meet the definition of a rifle in MA. It is not a pistol in MA. And it does not meet the definitions of a rifle or pistol in federal USC. It in no way is subject to the AWB.
That was not a dream. A nightmare maybe.Last night I dreamed Maura Healey was in my bathroom. I asked her this exact question. She said no.
Ok let's say it's not a firearm or destructive device. How about paired with a finished poly80 lower would you need to register it?That's an old article. Can Cannon’s website currently says ATF declares it neither a firearm nor destructive device.
honestly, this is not something that you'd bring to the range every time you go and frankly some ranges would frown or ban it outright. If you get nabbed for something, can cannon will be your least worries unless you want to open carry it around.
You can dispose with all the faggotry and just get the real thing, not a firearm, would probably go through a car when mounted on something more sturdy than your shoulder, otherwise chalk rounds are fun.
Ok let's say it's not a firearm or destructive device. How about paired with a finished poly80 lower would you need to register it?
I shoot at private owned property with a lot of land so this wouldn't be an issue for me. Most of my worries would be with the poly80 lower I've always wanted to try and finish one.
According to the feds, the can cannon is not a firearm or destructive device. The lower is, whether that be a rifle or pistol, however it was built. Can cannon + lower is just the same as if you only had a lower as far as I’m tracking. But that’s federal.
In MA, the lower alone is not a firearm(or rifle). However, when adding the can cannon upper, it may make it a “firearm” according to MA law. I say“firearm” specifically because it does not meet the definitions of a rifle or shotgun. it also shouldn’t fall under the AWB feature restrictions because it’s not a rifle or pistol. And probably not semiautomatic either.
So ultimately, yes, just build a polymer80 lower, and when it can fire that can “shot”, register it. You should be able to have a collapsible stock too.
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What caliber would I register it as? Budweiser 16oz?
Ha. Sounds good.What caliber would I register it as? Budweiser 16oz?