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I mean sure the video can be from any context but even the leftist Soros fake news outlets are saying the cops didn't do anything for up to an hour. Maybe this will be a call to defund the police even more lol.
may be, but it does not seem the only singular source stating the same version of events. nothing is for certain, of course, but so far it seems to be of what had happened.
so far is seems the SRO and police did nothing at all, with a strategic tactical wait approach, with border folks coming in to the scene as their kids were in that school. in desperation they called in their homies/husbands on patrol, and that group came and stormed into the building ignoring cops. if you have a better version - tell me, but it sounds realistic enough to me.
Border Patrol Agents Killed the Uvalde School Shooter. But Why Were They on the Scene?
Customs and Border Protection is a ubiquitous presence in many Texas communities, and agents are often first responders.www.texasmonthly.com
PS. that also explains why perp is dead and not presented now as a prized trophy on all the TV screens.
PPS. 'More could have been done': Witnesses question law enforcement response to Texas school shooting
Shooter walked in uncontested there was no SRO there. Door that chose was also unlocked. 15 min walk from where he crashed to the school.
The thing is the kids were already dead. It would be a bunch of people dead with nothing to show for it. I'm still waiting on the official timeline, if cops grabbed their own kids, all kinds of wonky information coming out.
The thing is the kids were already dead. It would be a bunch of people dead with nothing to show for it. I'm still waiting on the official timeline, if cops grabbed their own kids, all kinds of wonky information coming out.
The thing is the kids were already dead.
I still can't wrap my head around the timeline of cops just sitting around for 40 minutes, but only one classroom was attacked. He could have blown a hole through a door in that amount of time if the doors were locked. Something isn't adding up.Yeah, that is totally possible but even in that case, how is a person at that time to know that he is only going to kill those kids, and not move to the next group? I'd rather see, hell I'd rather be part of a group rushing him as soon as they got there even if it meant my death in the attempt for no real gain, just on the chance that it would stop him from killing any more.
In all honesty, if there were cops who went in to evac their own kids and not do anything about the problem they need to be fired, first from their jobs and then out of a cannon into a brick wall. You are right that we don't have a good idea what happened when, I'm just not sure that we will ever get a timeline that we can trust.
Sure. What is the gunfire though? Could it have been the breach team going in? Look, lay people are absolutely terrible eye witnesses. Even trained people are terrible at it. I'm all for terminating anyone who just sat there. But nothing I'm reading is making any sense to me.There is gunfire in the background of the tape, and one of the parents is saying so in the footage.
Don't be so sure they were all dead. The child that cried for help when called by an officer wasn't dead yet, either.
Our natural tendency is to reduce the horror as much as we can, but every hour comes with a new piece of information that makes it worse.
The only way now is through. Stop trying to mitigate. This was a horrific f***up on the part of police, and they deserve no quarter from the public.
I didn’t hear any gun fire in the video. Was there?There is gunfire in the background of the tape, and one of the parents is saying so in the footage.
Don't be so sure they were all dead. The child that cried for help when called by an officer wasn't dead yet, either.
Our natural tendency is to reduce the horror as much as we can, but every hour comes with a new piece of information that makes it worse.
The only way now is through. Stop trying to mitigate. This was a horrific f***up on the part of police, and they deserve no quarter from the public.
Simple math. How long would it take you to shoot up a classroom? Me? 15-20 seconds, max. So, if the cops waited 30+ minutes outside, just how many would be left even with an untrained person? Even 5 minutes is too long, the rest of the narrative is going to come out, good or bad, eventually.How do you know that? How could the cops reasonably know that?
Nah. The thin blue line decided to stay home, larping is safer.
During those 30 minutes, on minute one do you think cops were like meh, they are already dead or on minute 25?So, if the cops waited 30+ minutes outside
I just listened to the last twitter video, volume so loud my ears hurt. I didn't hear a gunshot. I did hear someone say there was shooting, but nothing remotely sharp thuddy sound a firearm would be inside a building like that.I didn’t hear any gun fire in the video. Was there?
NH is giving $500,000 grants to school systems to buy Zero Emissions busses so that the racial inequity of climate change is reduced. Maybe we should spend that elsewhere…
No idea. But people are simply making stuff up at this point. There is no new information I've seen, just recap of stuff that's already out. Listen to yourself, does what you just typed make any logical sense when we have evidence of people not wearing the proper gear to go into that situation? So, they waited 30 minutes to go in, but said 'f it, not wearing the kevlar helmet'.During those 30 minutes, on minute one do you think cops were like meh, they are already dead or on minute 25?
I agree.But people are simply making stuff up at this point.
It was , he was escorted out per the request of the people holding the meeting without being arrested.Yeah, I agree: he shouldn't have done it, and I wouldn't have done it. But I didn't see anything unlawful there, and that's what arrests are for.
Reread my post. I'm not supporting O'Rourke. I'm just supporting statism even less.
Thank you for that, if shots were still being fired, and they stayed outside holding dongs,dam. Here's hoping.I just listened to the last twitter video, volume so loud my ears hurt. I didn't hear a gunshot. I did hear someone say there was shooting, but nothing remotely sharp thuddy sound a firearm would be inside a building like that.
(reminder: MSNBC is the FBI/CIA mouthpiece)
Michael Moore On MSNBC: “It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment” – Deadline Michael Moore Tells MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, “It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment”
View: https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1529281763482259456?s=21&t=YQIR3QzFzDHSNnh4STgBEA
Once shooting can be heard it’s no longer a hostage/standoff situation, it’s an active shooter and you go in. The excuse that the 19 murdered children were all dead within the first few minutes is BS. There was an entire school full of potential victims that needed saving IMMEDIATELY.During those 30 minutes, on minute one do you think cops were like meh, they are already dead or on minute 25?
No idea. But people are simply making stuff up at this point. There is no new information I've seen, just recap of stuff that's already out. Listen to yourself, does what you just typed make any logical sense when we have evidence of people not wearing the proper gear to go into that situation? So, they waited 30 minutes to go in, but said 'f it, not wearing the kevlar helmet'.
(reminder: MSNBC is the FBI/CIA mouthpiece)
Michael Moore On MSNBC: “It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment” – Deadline Michael Moore Tells MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, “It’s Time To Repeal The Second Amendment”
View: https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1529281763482259456?s=21&t=YQIR3QzFzDHSNnh4STgBEA
BORTAC is the 'backup'. Telling them to stand down isn't going to go down well. They got a little off base and got one of their own killed for being stupid a while back, they are pretty damn serious now a days.My understanding, and it could be way off since we don't have a lot of info, was that those cops were sitting around doing nothing for a while. The border patrol guys showed up, were told to wait for backup, ignored that and went in and killed him. If this is the case those other cops have every reason to deflect and deny and mess with the timeline so that they don't look as bad.
Of course, it's also possible that those videos are after the shooter was killed and the cops are mostly keeping people away from the carnage. We will likely never know, because they cops have every reason to make it seem like the second scenario and not the first.
The gray hoodie pic is pretty affeminate, IMO.Oh yeah. I meant the female ones.
well, people are social animals. kids are stable, usually, as long as they are a part of some local group, they are supposed to be a part of some group and be outside, together.
when are kids outside, together, now? it is not happening anymore at all. you are happy if your own kid is at least on zoom with somebody alive on a camera, at least - but mostly it is just forums like this one, or discord, or whatever, and it is hurting them mentally, all of them.
just the last observation - my daughter just started the fencing classes. it is a brand new group of middle schoolers - 12 to 14 yr olds. they go to the class, they all sit on chairs in a line before class and they do not even try to speak with one another. i asked her - what is your partners` name - there are 3 girls there bout of same age. and she answers - she is shy, she would not speak. i ask her - why did not you introduce yourself and be friendly - she looks at me like i`m an idiot and says - 'you are not supposed to - it`s not polite'.
i`ll have to grab her father as we greeted up (like normal people do) when we waited and interfere into this mess at next class, as it is just ridiculous.
Cheese and crackers.... when you say it like that, man I feel old.WBCN reference, how long ago was that? Just the 80s?