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Ruger Mini-14 is a great choice. You can get it in .223 and also (I think) 7.62x39. FID ok. Can find em used for about $500. Good luck!
Also check out this thread.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...ice-on-Mag-Rifles-that-are-Mass-FID-Compliant
wanted to make sure that it would be legal for me to buy/carry this rifle with an MA FID card
@GSG and Kevlar - Thanks a ton. I always thought that if you could buy an aftermarket hi-cap magazine from any manufacturer for a rifle, that the rifle is considered high-capacity. From what I'm understanding, a rifle is only high-capacity if the "oringinal manufacturer" (as in the company that manufactures the gun) sells the rifle with a hi-cap mag. If the original manufacturer (in this case Hi-Point) does not sell a mag over 10 rounds, then it is considered FID-Compliant, correct?
Like GSG said in his thread, it is very easy to be breaking the law with an FID card and not even know it. By the way thanks for the great info in the thread you posted on FID laws, GSG. I have never been in trouble for anything police realted so it should not apply to me, but those are very good things to know. I will keep them in mind and pass them along to some of my friends.
So from what I understand, both the stock SKS and the Hi-Point 995TS are Mass FID-Compliant.
From what I'm understanding, a rifle is only high-capacity if the "oringinal manufacturer" (as in the company that manufactures the gun) sells the rifle with a hi-cap mag.
Like GSG said in his thread, it is very easy to be breaking the law with an FID card and not even know it.
So from what I understand, both the stock SKS and the Hi-Point 995TS are Mass FID-Compliant.
Do either of you have any opinions on these guns as to which one is better, more reliable. I am only planning on using the rifle as a target shooter at my local range, not considering for a home defense weapon.
Any of you guys have any suggestions on where to get the 995TS, either a local MA store or an online website? I would prefer an MA store as I would not have to deal with a FFL dealer and have them receive the gun for me from a website, and then go and get the gun from them (and be charged a fee). Looking to get the 995TS for around 250 - 300, depending since I know certain places sell the rifle with red dot, grip, or both included.
And Kevlar, may I ask where you purchase your guns from? From what I've seen it will cost about 525-550 for both of these rifles (about 275 for 995TS with red dot, and around 250-275 for SKS), which I don't mind paying. However, you said to save up an extra 100 and get them both. Just wondering if you know some place where I can get dicounts for buying more than one rifle at a time or something? Cheapest prices I found were $250 for 995TS with Red Dot sight on cheaperthandirt.com and 268 for 995TS with red dot on Ables (not including tax, shipping, or FFL fees).
Also, since I was plainning on getting the 995TS in 9mm, do you think I'm gonna have a hard time buying ammo for this rifle, since 9mm is pistol ammo and you have to be 21 to buy pistol ammo? I'm assuming that if I explain to them that I own a 9mm Carbine that they should sell me the ammo. I am only planning on buying in bulk, but the cheapest 9mm rounds I can find are the Winchester White Box Value Pack 100rounds for around 24$ at Walmart. If I can find a bigger value pack, for less money per bullet I am willing to buy, just need to make sure they will sell to FID holders.
Once upon a time I had a 995 and an SKS.So from what I understand, both the stock SKS and the Hi-Point 995TS are Mass FID-Compliant. Do either of you have any opinions on these guns as to which one is better, more reliable.
make it clear to the FFL that you have an FID, it is legal for you to buy and own, and confirm that they will sell it to you.
Petey - welcome to the forum. Sage advice here. I think OTR makes a good point with the SKS, though people seem to like those HiPoints. I'd start with a 10/22 and an SKS if it were me. It's gets you in the game cheaply and gives you the ability to literally "plink" for an afternoon on the cost of .22LR ammunition, (about 20-bucks or under for 500-rounds). The 9mm carbine is neat, but not cheap to shoot at all, (about $24.00 a hundred). Whatever you decide - congrats!
In regards to the mini 14, if the factory offers 20 rd mags(they do), doesn't that mean that mini 14s do not qualify as FID compliant? I was under the impression that if high cap mags are made by the factory for the model it was a no go. I see alot of recommendations for the mini 14 in FID compliance threads and don't want anyone to get burned.
Also, since I was plainning on getting the 995TS in 9mm, do you think I'm gonna have a hard time buying ammo for this rifle, since 9mm is pistol ammo and you have to be 21 to buy pistol ammo? I'm assuming that if I explain to them that I own a 9mm Carbine that they should sell me the ammo. I am only planning on buying in bulk, but the cheapest 9mm rounds I can find are the Winchester White Box Value Pack 100rounds for around 24$ at Walmart. If I can find a bigger value pack, for less money per bullet I am willing to buy, just need to make sure they will sell to FID holders.
It's not specifically "pistol ammo". There are pistol caliber carbines, just as there are rifle caliber pistols. The key is (especially at Wal-Mart) to answer (truthfully) "No" when asked "is this for a handgun?".
I figured that since I am buying 9mm rounds for a rifle that I should have no problem. I mean, its not like I'm lying, all I have to do is tell the truth and say that I am buying the rounds for my 9mm carbine.
Even if my local Walmart wont sell me 9mm rounds, I'm sure I'll pass penty of other Wallmarts that I can try to buy ammo at on my way to the gun shops near me (since Wallmart's the cheapest place I've found 9mm ammo, Winchester White Box 100count for around $24).
Wal-Mart almost certainly won't sell you 9mm in MA. Worth a try, but don't be surprised if they tell you "sorry, that is pistol ammo!!" and you have to be 21 to buy it. That's one of the problems with WM and Dicks . . . most of the clerks know nothing about guns and only do what they are told, can't think for themselves.
Now, you are 100% SURE that the 995TS Carbine is legal for me to buy and carry (as long as it is an appropriate manner) with an FID Card. I would hate to think that I went through all this trouble to follow the strict gun laws of Mass. just to find out that the rifle I just bought is not even legal for me to carry with an FID Card.
Worrying about whether the manufacturer or somebody else sells a large cap magazine, or whether the round in the chamber counts is all a waste of time. Those are the criteria that go into determining whether the rifle is considered to be large capacity or not, but the actual decision is done by EOPS, not you or the dealer. To find out what rifles a Massachusetts dealer can't legally sell you with only an FID, see the large capacity firearm list on-line here.
Ken
In regards to the mini 14, if the factory offers 20 rd mags(they do), doesn't that mean that mini 14s do not qualify as FID compliant? I was under the impression that if high cap mags are made by the factory for the model it was a no go. I see alot of recommendations for the mini 14 in FID compliance threads and don't want anyone to get burned.
Worrying about whether the manufacturer or somebody else sells a large cap magazine, or whether the round in the chamber counts is all a waste of time. Those are the criteria that go into determining whether the rifle is considered to be large capacity or not, but the actual decision is done by EOPS, not you or the dealer. To find out what rifles a Massachusetts dealer can't legally sell you with only an FID, see the large capacity firearm list on-line here.
Ken
The problem is that their list isn't all-inclusive.