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The match is won at the 200 standing. The only time the 600 is difficult is when the wind is switching up and you can't pick up a mirage.
another vote for standing.
that being said, matches are won @ 200, and lost @ 600
rapids are important....but lets face it...the target is HUGE for what it is. if you concentrate on your part...theres no reason you can't clean the rapids.
i usually drop as many points standing as I do the rest of the way back.
dont sweat it mike. Offhand is a game that takes time to learn to do well. its 95% mental. today was a good example...it was a TOUGH day to shoot offhand. lots of gusts that'd knock you off balance. I know I tightened up my hold quite a bit today, and was a LOT more deliberate on the trigger (and even then I still pooched a couple of 8's). the guys that shot well are the guys that kept their head in the game. You shot a decent score...especially considering that you haven't been shooting for all that long.
A good way to get good at standing is to get a dedicated high quality .22lr upper and quality ammo, shoot at 50 yards at a dime sized target. Run through your regular 20 shot (Shot routine) as if you were shooting a match. It won't be long before all your shots are in that black dime or on the edge of it.
This is great advice. I'm sure the pistol guys look at me and Jasper all weird when we line up indoors at Mystic with Creedmoor coats and all of the gear, but it definitely helps. The .22 will magnify your flaws and force you to hold strong and follow through.
A good way to get good at standing is to get a dedicated high quality .22lr upper and quality ammo, shoot at 50 yards at a dime sized target. Run through your regular 20 shot (Shot routine) as if you were shooting a match. It won't be long before all your shots are in that black dime or on the edge of it.
Mike, standing is hard only if you make it so. If you think it's hard, it will be hard. The more you shoot, the more you will realize that ther mental game is as, or more, important than the mechanics.
I used to HATE shooting offhand because I was so poor at it. I'm still not very good, but I enjoy it more because I look at it differently now. It's about small goals for me; not so much a score, but well executed shots. I'm sure you've shot an X, where the second you sqeezed the trigger, you knew it was a good shot. As George S. says "If you can shoot a called X once, you can do it over and over again". He's right.
Shoot for X's, take any and all 10's, accept 9's, and try to eliminate 8's.
This. You need to think of it as 20 individual single shot matches. Don't worry about the last shot or the next shot, just focus on breaking ~this~ shot perfectly. Rinse, repeat. I'm actually starting to enjoy offhand since I started thinking this way. If I toss an 8 (or worse) I spend about 5 seconds analyzing what I did wrong (usually I took too long to dress it up,) I file that away in the furthest corner of my mind for later, and then I just move on to the next one. Always visualize a perfect X sight picture as you bring the rifle up. If you're thinking about that 8 you just tossed your subconscious WILL make you do it again.
If you're interested, check out "With Winning in Mind" by former Olympic shooter Lanny Bassham. He shares the techniques that he used to control his mind. It's a little hippie / new-age, but it works. I've read it three times now and it's finally starting to soak in.
Offhand is the most challenging position but it's also the most rewarding. Like I said a 181 is a damn good score.
If you're interested, check out "With Winning in Mind" by former Olympic shooter Lanny Bassham. He shares the techniques that he used to control his mind. It's a little hippie / new-age, but it works. I've read it three times now and it's finally starting to soak in.
I vote for 600 yards being the hardest with a service rifle.
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In an 80 round match, what do you think is the hardest?
off hand at 200 /sitting at 300 / prone at 600
Hi Mike,
I would say offhand is the hardest cuz that's where I (most all of us) drop the most points.
Probably 600 is the hardest to learn after offhand.
I learned to score well in 300 prone rapid the fastest but it was by no means easy for me..
I still feel I let too many points go in offhand and sitting so that is where I spend the majority of my practice time.
(when I can find the time to practice)
Many say sitting is easy but I have always struggled with it. I'm a slow learner but I'm finally starting to get sitting figured out some...
Learning to consistently score well in all the positions takes alot of work and practice for most as they climb the classification ladder.
And then once you start to get many of the details figured out getting them to all come together at the same time is the next hardest thing to do.
I've been doing this a long time and I'm not bored with it yet cuz I still keep feeling like I have plenty of room for improvement.
Enjoy the journey
Thanks, George. See you on the 28th. Are you one of the coaches for the clinic?