that is a reason why i do not have such an urge going for those extra large calibers - i do not hunt, and, in order to just kill some paper with close to a 100gr of powder - well.
a 30gr charge does it same well.
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a 30gr charge does it same well.
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I traded a piece of equipment for that rifle. It was so overkill even for 500 yards.
Sold it and bought that 700 in the .308 thread.
Much more better for my type of paper punching.
i am extremely pleased now with my budget ar10 build with a generic BA 20" barrel - one that i posted above doing the 175gr RDF noslers. i did not expect it to perform so well at all, it is always nice to see such surprises.
i would probably be not too happy from a dedicated rem700 308 to group so, but, for an non-brand name ar10 - why not.
what not to like here - 10 shots from an assortment range picked up brass:
Once fired brass from this bolt gun run through a Redding full length die, shoulder pushed back 0.001"
Used the RCBS 223 micrometer kit to see where the lands start. Selected a bullet seating depth about 0.010" off that. Overall length is past mag length for this setup (2.330"), but I have a single feed adapter.
CCI #400 primers, AA2520 powder. 10 loaded at 23.0 grains, 5 of those will be used as sighters/foulers, then 5 each 23.0, 23.5 and 24.0 for groups over the chrono.
Used the RCBS 223 micrometer kit to see where the lands start. Selected a bullet seating depth about 0.010" off that. Overall length is past mag length for this setup (2.330"), but I have a single feed adapter.
CCI #400 primers, AA2520 powder. 10 loaded at 23.0 grains, 5 of those will be used as sighters/foulers, then 5 each 23.0, 23.5 and 24.0 for groups over the chrono.
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with 2520 you really can go up to 26gr loads on 69smk, watching out for pressure, of course. 26gr should do 3000fps. groups probably will be rather bad above 25gr.
accuracy load below is BS, did not work for me at all.
and same data for gas guns:
PS. 26gr of varget is BS, btw, do not try.
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Right on! Thank you. I only had Lyman and Accurate data for that bullet and powder. Very helpful.with 2520 you really can go up to 26gr loads on 69smk, watching out for pressure, of course. 26gr should do 3000fps. groups probably will be rather bad above 25gr.
accuracy load below is BS, did not work for me at all.
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and same data for gas guns:
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PS. 26gr of varget is BS, btw, do not try.
Todays haul at the range. 30-30, 44 mag and 7.62x39 brass.
Is Hornady 30-30 brass any good? I seem to recall hearing mixed opinions on Hornady brass
There were a few 44 spl cases but I left those behind
Is Hornady 30-30 brass any good? I seem to recall hearing mixed opinions on Hornady brass
There were a few 44 spl cases but I left those behind
38ExtraSpecial
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Are the 30-30 short like some of their other lever gun brass?
I just measured them and they’re all between 2.029-2.030". Case trim length for 30-30 is 2.029" so I guess they’re within spec surprisingly. I always heard Hornady brass was short too. I guess it depends on the loading and caliber
38ExtraSpecial
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Score! Load it up then!
I toss any Hornady 357 mag brass I find. For some reason it's a bitch to prime and they are usually short making it difficult to get a consistent crimp.
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Loaded some .309 and .310 coated and gaschecked bullets with 2400 and 5744 powder for mild 30/06 ammo. The .310 from Norm Purcella and 2400 performed the best. I also ordered 8 pounds of BE-86, a pound of Varget and a bunch of cast bullets. 7.5 of Be-86 and a 250 grain rnfp is a good 45 Colt load.
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Last week finally got the ingenuity trickler in and broke it in loading the match ammo for the Snow Brawl.
I loaded 150 rounds 29.8 grain of Varget and had only one overthrow by one kernel. Best part is drops averaged 5-6 seconds.
Was gonna post a video but can’t figure out how to. It’s so pretty to watch
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What are you shooting , 6br ?
38ExtraSpecial
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I hear the BE86 is similar to unique but cleaner burning. What say you?
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Close 6 BRA
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The only thing u get is the trickler on the right yellow anodized unit. You need the scale and Autotrickler v3 or v4 but the v4 isn’t nearly as fast.
i already realized i am too skinflint for that much fun.
all i want is a good scale to measure that i already load, a scale that does not drift. the dillon blue scale i got as a replacement was ok for a while, but, started drifting a bit recently, just like the old one did.
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38ExtraSpecial
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Interesting. Might be a nice powder to play with. Seems like it has some followers but it’s not as popular as either of the other two you mentioned.
Might be a sleeper
my lyman will drift depending on humidity. Also drifts dending on how many lights are on in the basement.i already realized i am too skinflint for that much fun.
all i want is a good scale to measure that i already load, a scale that does not drift. the dillon blue scale i got as a replacement was ok for a while, but, started drifting a bit recently, just like the old one did.
i may try to get an el-cheapo battery operated one and see if that will be any better. not sure. they all seem to be junk.
have anybody tried this brand?
Amazon product ASIN B07JCD68WRView: https://www.amazon.com/Truweigh-Digital-Scale-0-005g-LUX-100-005-BK/dp/B07JCD68WR
Amazon product ASIN B073X7QSBBView: https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Milligram-Scale-0-001g-Black/dp/B073X7QSBB
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just Some skinflint things![[troll]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/016.gif "Troll [troll]")
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This Scale has been great.
Digital Milligram Scale, 50g Portable Mini Scale, 0.001g Precise Graduation, Professional Pocket Scale with 50g Calibration Weights Tweezers (Batteries Included) https://a.co/d/byOVgIH
Thx, will try it. If not - amazon will get it back.
It just got unbearable now as if I lift and put back same empty piece of brass it eventually starts adding .2gr every time. Total bs.
Which color is most accurate? I hear red ones go faster.
I have a $8 dollar (10 plus years old) Digiweigh i just use Duracell copper tops and I take them out when not in use. Its in line with my 2 other scales and the beam scale. I think a lot has to do with environment. Also my phone makes strange noises when Im near my scales so i would not be surprised if my phone interferes with the scales also.
I dont have my phone near me when im in the reloading room anyway. Its 100% quiet time for me when I do get in there.
i suspect it may be either dust or mold accumulated on the sensors, may be, as it seems to be time factor related - it works fine for a while before issues become apparent.
and it is not consistent.
i do not think those $20-$10 scales use any different kinds of weigh sensors compared to blue dillon, so, do not really expect much, but, will see.
10 shots at 23.0: avg 2504, es 100, sd 36
5 shots at 23.5: avg 2613, es 88, sd 37
5 shots at 24.0: avg 2702, es 54, sd 23
5 shots at 24.5: avg 2765, es 74, sd 38
I noticed in the 23.0 and 23.5 groups that carbon was visible on the brass back to the shoulder. In the 24.0 and 24.5 groups carbon was only visible on the neck. I think this means the brass was not obturating/sealing through the shoulder area on the lighter charges.
100 yard groups, left to right 23.0, 23.5, 24.0, 24.5. I feel like the flyer in group three was me not being up against the gun squarely, but hard to say. The 24.5g group measures 0.875" with calipers. Each of those last 5 shots felt good. Not an awesome group, but pretty good for my first test with this bullet. I may dial it up a little more, and play with seating depth a little more as well. I'm sure my technique could use some work too. This was prone off a rest.
so, just one comment.
if 2.330" up there is a COAL - the 69SMK does not like to sit that high. it is really best at 2.260-2.275 COAL.
if you prefer to sit bullet that high to be closer to the lands - you can look at nosler RDF lineup.
also, groups sizes you see are similar to what i had initially trying 2520, and why i switched to varget - that worked for my ar15, but you have a bolt gun here. so, dunno.
if it is NOT a bolt gun - then sit it for the mag at 2.260-2.265, where it belongs.
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