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Any major differences between the two?
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Vortex SPARC II verse Vortex SPARC AR
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The AR looks like just a slim version of the SPARC
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There is a more expensive version with a prismatic optic system that my AR guru has advised is better for precise shots at distance.
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Yup.
I was thinking of the 1x. 399 list; $299 MAP (min advertised price allowed by Vortex); sometimes available for less on Amazon.
http://www.primaryarms.com/spr-200/p/spr-200/
I have one of these. The center dot is 1moa I believe. I can't quickly find literature confirming that but it's certainly not 3moa. My aimpoint is 2moa and the center dot on the Vortex is smaller.
Either way, I like this style of optic over a conventional red dot because the red dots seem to starburst on me from time to time. This etched design agrees with my eyes more.
I had an original sparc. it worked great but i had to send it back for a battery door issue. sent it out on monday and had a new one by thursday. the second one had zero issues for a couple of years before selling it.
I have one of these. The center dot is 1moa I believe. I can't quickly find literature confirming that but it's certainly not 3moa. My aimpoint is 2moa and the center dot on the Vortex is smaller.
Either way, I like this style of optic over a conventional red dot because the red dots seem to starburst on me from time to time. This etched design agrees with my eyes more.
I had an original sparc. it worked great but i had to send it back for a battery door issue. sent it out on monday and had a new one by thursday. the second one had zero issues for a couple of years before selling it.
The spit fire per vortex web site with the DRT reticle states 3moa dot.? Simple see how many inches it covers at 25 feet a 3 moa dot will cover about 1/4" this is 1x .... good manufactures will tell you at what MagX the reticle subtension
Spit fire with EBR
http://www.vortexoptics.com/uploads/sub_spf_3x_ebr-556b_moa-t.jpg
Spitfire DRT ret.
http://www.vortexoptics.com/uploads/sub_spf_1x_drt_moa-t.jpg
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their site doesn't list the center dot site for the new spitfire AR. At least i couldn't see it listed. the older ones had a designation of 3 MOA which i've seen many times questioned by others who have owned them online when i was researching them. i also have this scope:
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-14x-24-illuminated-scope-pa14x-eta-early-may-2016/p/pa14x/
It claims to have center dot that is 2moa. The spitfire AR's center dot is at least as small and dear I say smaller. It COULD be because it's a prism/etched scope and can be slightly deceiving. either way, it's MUCH smaller than a strikefire 2 which i also owned for a short time. THAT is believably a 4MOA red dot-it's huge in my opinion.
http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-14x-24-illuminated-scope-pa14x-eta-early-may-2016/p/pa14x/
It claims to have center dot that is 2moa. The spitfire AR's center dot is at least as small and dear I say smaller. It COULD be because it's a prism/etched scope and can be slightly deceiving. either way, it's MUCH smaller than a strikefire 2 which i also owned for a short time. THAT is believably a 4MOA red dot-it's huge in my opinion.
I agree 4moa is big but where talking fast acquisition of sight and target and looking for Hits on a torso size target... 2moa might be for some tough to pick up quickly.
I will dig around for the NEW spitfire.
The new Spitfire AR has the same ret
http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-spitfire-ar-1x-prism-scope
The new sparc AR is just a plain 2 MOA dot.
This is why it's good to play with your scope and learn what your reticle can do. Once you know what distance your dots or lines or what have you cover at X distance on Y mag X you can start judging distance better.
So,if your uncertain of your reticle subtension (basically a set distance where your scope reticle dots,crosshairs,hash marks are X size on Y mag) my 8x32 scope is .25 moa dot on 24x , .5 moa on 12x and .190 MOA 32x
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What I would like to see is the "concept " of their reticle designs. The DRT reticle is exscaping me a little. the inner ring is 44MOA
so basically at 100 yards you could put the upper body inside the inner ring and have a hit on target?
I will tell you one thing. The first time I looked through a 1/8 moa dot scope I could not see it! took some getting used to. BUT after using my 1/4 MOA dot looking at a standard red dot feels like a basket ball in front of my face
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SPARC II's CR2032 "Bios battery" is not rare.
SPARC AR's AAA battery is available in every 7-11.
SPARC AR's MSRP: $259.00.
Four Seasons in Woburn stocks them for $199.99.
(Phone to confirm availability and pricing).
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Why do you like the spitfire better? Because it's larger? The reticle?
I'm on the fence trying to decide what I want to get in the $200 -$400 range.
My initial idea was to get a sparc II or AR and then get the flip 3x magnifier...
I've had a sparc first edition, a strikefire 2, an aimpoint pro, a couple of primary arms red dots and a Spitfire AR. the spitfire ar has a better reticle and (for me) the etched design is better than a plain old red dot. If i could only have one it would be hard to decide between the aimpoint pro and the spitfire AR.
