Ultra-Maxx

[TonyDedo]

Here is the spill over from the ammo deal thread in the members section. Typeo1313 9-4-07

I've been on the lookout for cheap .223. This is what I've found so far:

Collectors has some cheap steel cased Russian .223 for $4.50/20 (.23/round). I forget the brand; it's not Wolf, but something similar (and probably just as awful).

Collectors also has what looks like Eastern Eurpoean surplus 5.56x45 (I think it was Serbian) for 6.75/20 (.34/round). It's more expensive, but it looks like good brass and it's probably nice and hot. Four Seasons has the same stuff for $7.99/box.

Dicks has 150 round value packs of .223 for $39.99 (.27/round). However, they never seem to have more than 2-3 boxes in stock (if at all).

Any other insight on cheap .223, please let me know. And if anyone knows where I can get some more of that Guatemalan 5.56, please PM me.

-C

 

[Moderator]

Dicks has 150 round value packs of .223 for $39.99 (.27/round). However, they never seem to have more than 2-3 boxes in stock (if at all).

Is it the Ultra-Max? If so it is hardly a bargain considering it's reloads IMO. Personally I shoot wolf before I shoot it.

 

[Transporter]

I've seen the same stuff at Dick's. .223 and .45ACP. It is ultra-max.
I remember when I first started shooting five or so years ago there was quite a bit of Blazer ammo around, but now I hardly see it at all. something happen to the company? Not that I was a fan of the stuff, just curious.

 

[C-pher]

Is it the Ultra-Max? If so it is hardly a bargain considering it's reloads IMO. Personally I shoot wolf before I shoot it.

Kevin (jrbtzx12r) comes in all the time and that buys it up. I don't know, but the people that come in and buy it love the stuff.

 

[jrbtzx12r]

Kevin (jrbtzx12r) comes in all the time and that buys it up. I don't know, but the people that come in and buy it love the stuff.

My AR loves the Ultramax stuff.
I've never found more than 4 boxes of the value packs in any Dick's at one time.

 

[Adam_MA]

Ultramax ammo is actually pretty good stuff!

 

[drgrant]

Is it the Ultra-Max? If so it is hardly a bargain considering it's reloads IMO. Personally I shoot wolf before I shoot it.

Same here... Dunno about their 223 rifle ammo, but ultramax pistol
ammo is garbage. It's underpowered, dirty, and often improperly
sized. A guy at one of the plate shoots had a big box of the .45
ACP RNL stuff and there were at least a dozen rejects in the box
by the end of the day. Maybe that stuff was made on a
friday, but I'd rather take my chances with wolf instead if I was
shopping that low on the pole, so to speak. I've also tried some of
their 10mm out of an S+W 610, and while it worked, it was by far
the weakest 10mm Auto I've ever fired in my life... was probably sub .40 S+W
loading levels.

-Mike

 

[snowjoker]

I've put about 800 rounds of Ultramax .223 through my AR and not had one single problem. It goes on sale fairly often for $34.99 for 150 rounds. I grab it then. I prefer the brass over the steel anyway...

 

[jrbtzx12r]

Is it the Ultra-Max? If so it is hardly a bargain considering it's reloads IMO. Personally I shoot wolf before I shoot it.

But what's to stop us from reloading the cases? Wolf is dirtier, and steel cases. I think it's a pretty good bargain....

Jr

 

[Moderator]

But what's to stop us from reloading the cases?

Do you reload brass not knowing how many times it has been reloaded before? I am not a reloader, just asking a general question.

 

[jrbtzx12r]

Do you reload brass not knowing how many times it has been reloaded before? I am not a reloader, just asking a general question.

I reload any type of brass as long as it looks OK to do so. Granted I'm fairly new to reloading, but I haven't had a problem so far. From what I've seen, if there's an issue with the brass (other than a visible defect) it usually shows up during the reloading process.

Jr

 

[TonyDedo]

Rich Callaghan at Callaghan's Firearms in Marlborough will always pick up a case (he doesn't pass on shipping charges that way) from the distibutor and give you a good price. He's never charged me more then the best price I see at shows.

-= chuck

The Ultramax, or just .223 in general?

 

[TonyDedo]

Took Tana out to dinner tonight, and happened to swing by Dick's on my way. Got lucky, and found 5 boxes of the Ultramax .223 150 round value packs, which I "needed" for the Appleseed shoot this weekend.

At $39.99/box, less a 10% coupon, that's $0.24/round.

The Russian (Barnaul) steel cased stuff at $4.50/box is $0.225/round.

So for an extra $0.015/round, you get the ammo AND the brass. I think $15/1000 is a fair price to pay for twice used .223 brass.

 

[JRyan]

Is it the Ultra-Max? If so it is hardly a bargain considering it's reloads IMO. Personally I shoot wolf before I shoot it.

can you reload Ultramax?

 

[TonyDedo]

can you reload Ultramax?

I don't see why not. It's once fired Lake City brass (so technically it'd be twice fired), but unless it fails visual inspection, I don't see why you couldn't reload it.

If anyone has good reason why this brass should not be reloaded, speak now or forever hold your peace.

 

[icyclefar]

Took Tana out to dinner tonight, and happened to swing by Dick's on my way. Got lucky, and found 5 boxes of the Ultramax .223 150 round value packs, which I "needed" for the Appleseed shoot this weekend.

At $39.99/box, less a 10% coupon, that's $0.24/round.

The Russian (Barnaul) steel cased stuff at $4.50/box is $0.225/round.

So for an extra $0.015/round, you get the ammo AND the brass. I think $15/1000 is a fair price to pay for twice used .223 brass.

Funny .......... my box of .223 Ultramax was 130 rounds (printed on the carton) $39.99 less coupons bought at Dick's

 

[TonyDedo]

Funny .......... my box of .223 Ultramax was 130 rounds (printed on the carton) $39.99 less coupons bought at Dick's

There are two (at least) types of Ultramax $39.99. The FMJ comes in 150 round boxes, but the 55 GR soft point comes in 130 round boxes. I'm assuming you have the latter.