WASA 10 - different than the WASR recommended by another user in a post above?
No.
It’s just how they pronounce “WASR” in Wicked Pissah New Hampshah.
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WASA 10 - different than the WASR recommended by another user in a post above?
Because for 7.62 x 39 and 5.45 x 39 it is literally 99% (or more!) of the ammo available on the market. Brass cased 7.62 x 39 isn't even sold in a lot of gun stores. On the other hand steel cased is everywhere. The only time anyone ever used brass for those guns in bulk was when there was a supply shortage about a decade or so ago that resulted in like an 8 month restriction in
ammo imports into the US.
These guns were practically DESIGNED to work with that ammo. You would be hard pressed to find any 7.62 x 39 better than Golden Tiger anyways, for general use.
The only reason I would ever run brass in an AK or SKS is if I was buying something like Jacketed Soft Points or something like that.
-Mike
I'll agree with you that x39 in the AR using non standard mags is a problem and one that's not easy (if at all possible) to fix. However, when I heard that PSA was making an AR that used a lower that uses AK mags, that was the best solution to the problem. Does that mean it'll work with all AK mags? No, but if it's restricted to the most common mags like Magpul it's not asking too much for proper mags made for 7.62x39. The PSA KS47 is still relatively new and I wouldn't rush out to buy one just yet, but in a year or two if there's not a huge number of complaints about them, I would buy one.Weird stuff, or low cap stuff, because every one of those guns I've seen for sale always had this melange of crap with it. So whatever colt was selling had to be
difficult to find or expensive. They usually looked like this...
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You can see from here the obvious problem is obvious.
Cartridges like 5.45 x 39 and 7.62 x 39 were not designed to be used in guns like this that have straight mag feed towers. The shape of the cartridge leads to a dimensional
stacking thing. Even the mags depicted above, although they probably work, are best described as "still f***ing weird" and you can imagine the mechanical nightmare going
on inside that shit in the top part of the magazine. *shudder*. You know how you pick up one of those shitty doublestack 10 round cripplemags for (glock, HK, whatever?) and you
fill it (to capacity) with ammo, and you can still hear the ammo rattling around slightly in the mag? Imagine that same kind of f***ery, except with a RIFLE CARTRIDGE that's like 2.5 times as long....
For me this stuff is firmly in the "looks cool, but actually probably sucks" realm. But it's like anything else, as far as I'm concerned this isn't much different
than like guys who like actually sleeping with crazy broads. I don't have the tolerance or patience for that kind of garbage, but if someone else does, go for it... be my guest.
-Mike
Not everybody buys ammo online for various reasons, but I agree that it's not an issue if you buy ammo online. That said, the obssession is in the price to shoot; the cheapest brass x39 ammo I can find costs $0.43/rd while steel cases ammo can go as low as 20 cents a round. Paying double for something never sits well with anyone.Well maybe in your local gun store, but it's about as common in brass as .308 is from my experience. Any reasonable online ammo retailer has lots of it, and recently I was buying some odd brand up for around .25 that ran just great in my mini. Yes brass is more expensive but its not really expensive ammo.
I just get a kick out of how everyone hammers on mini 30s because they don't run well on bottom end steel case ammo, as if brass case ammo is somehow exotic. Steel case ammo in general is an exception to the rule if anything, only is so prolific with AK variants because of the country's who run them . Doesn't make any gun that won't run steel inferior is my point.
Well maybe in your local gun store, but it's about as common in brass as .308 is from my experience. Any reasonable online ammo retailer has lots of it, and recently I was buying some odd brand up for around .25 that ran just great in my mini. Yes brass is more expensive but its not really expensive ammo.
I just get a kick out of how everyone hammers on mini 30s because they don't run well on bottom end steel case ammo, as if brass case ammo is somehow exotic. Steel case ammo in general is an exception to the rule if anything, only is so prolific with AK variants because of the country's who run them . Doesn't make any gun that won't run steel inferior is my point.
The WASR10's may not be as good as an Arsenal or a Vz58, but they cost a lot less and are good AK's for the money. Century and IO are pure garbage that you'd be better off flushing money down the toilet. The WASR's were built to be military guns meant to last and go thru hell, the Century and IO's were built to meet a price point to compete with the WASR and make a profit, hence the use of a lot of cast parts.
Both are Imported by Century Arms. I have been burned with Century built/imported AK's in the past and stay clear of them . Some function great, others ...well not so great.WASA 10 - different than the WASR recommended by another user in a post above?
The canted sight AKs Century Arms produced were to my ( limited knowledge) several years ago. However I would not purchase an AK from century. How many here remember the AK's they sold with barrels chambered for 223 and not 5.45×39 .They have had numerous production issues on many of their firearms. If you have the $$$$$ I suggest an Arsenal AK. Milled receiver......... again just my opinion.I didn't know the Century and IO's used cast parts. I had an IO for a while, and it was flawless. Never jammed, etc. As for the Centurys, I'd heard about canted sights and similar issues, although everyone with the C39V2 seems to feel that they are OK.
Mini 30 is a piece of crap not made to shoot Tula or any steel ammo. SKS is cheaper accurate and fun. AR and AK anre cool also but pricer
I bought one 5 years ago it wouldn't fire any Tula. Bought price for twice the price and fired without any problems. Is yours newer? Maybe they made changes to fire steel ammo due to alot of complaints. Mini-30 Firing pin. If they made the Mini 30 as reliable as a AK or SKS more people would buy them and pay the more money for quality.I have a mini 30 and it has only lived off Tula and Golden Tiger! It is not super accurate
I bought one 5 years ago it wouldn't fire any Tula. Bought price for twice the price and fired without any problems. Is yours newer? Maybe they made changes to fire steel ammo due to alot of complaints. Mini-30 Firing pin. If they made the Mini 30 as reliable as a AK or SKS more people would buy them and pay the more money for quality.
What's different about the VZ over the AK? Long stroke vs. short stroke, stock dimensions, or what?
Those things, plus weight. Milling. Size of the ejection port. Ability to reload with stripper clips. Presence of a BHO. And, of course, every part of the internals is completely different from the AK.
The only thing they really have in common is caliber and, perhaps, overall aesthetics.
In the obscure and expensive 7.62x39 category, you could try looking for either one of these C&Rs:
Czech VZ 52/57 - the VZ 52 reworked for 7.62x39
I have a VZ 52 in the original caliber and they are not easily found especially chambered in 7.62x39, as to the Rashid they are demanding BIG money.In the obscure and expensive 7.62x39 category, you could try looking for either one of these C&Rs:
Czech VZ 52/57 - the VZ 52 reworked for 7.62x39
Or the Hakim's little brother, the Rashid carbine:
Slightly less likely to amputate your thumb than the Hakim - because the bolt's smaller.
I have a VZ 52 in the original caliber and they are not easily found especially chambered in 7.62x39, as to the Rashid they are demanding BIG money.
I bought one 5 years ago it wouldn't fire any Tula. Bought price for twice the price and fired without any problems. Is yours newer? Maybe they made changes to fire steel ammo due to alot of complaints. Mini-30 Firing pin. If they made the Mini 30 as reliable as a AK or SKS more people would buy them and pay the more money for quality.
The VZ 58 is not an AK and will not take AK mags, but it is a great looking rifle.I’ve owned a Norinco underfolder, a WASR, and a Vz58. The Vz58 is by far the best-made and most accurate. The WASR is great too, since I extended the LOP. Both just never seem to malfunction.
In fairness, I bought the WASR when they cost around six bills.