my friend is an leo, and can legally buy glock's...i have a class a ltc, with NO restrictions...would it be a straw purchase if he bought a glock, and sold it to me? is there an mgl that someone could point me to?
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my friend is an leo, and can legally buy glock's...i have a class a ltc, with NO restrictions...would it be a straw purchase if he bought a glock, and sold it to me? is there an mgl that someone could point me to?
That would be fine.
that would be fine, as in not a straw purchase?
would it make a difference if it was a new glock? i know i can buy older ones, pre 1998...but not sure how the law works with new ones....
It doesn't matter. As long as it appears on the list and is available to LEO's, an LEO can sell you his firearm so long as your licensed. He can't transfer over the magazines though, because they may not be pre-ban...but the firearm itself can be 3rd Gen.
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my friend is an leo, and can legally buy glock's...i have a class a ltc, with NO restrictions...would it be a straw purchase if he bought a glock, and sold it to me? is there an mgl that someone could point me to?
This isn't covered in MGL at all, but in federal law.
And to directly answer your question, yes, it would be a straw purchase, at least given what you've stated here.
Now, on the other hand, if said LEO bought this gun for his own use, and then
decided later on to sell it to you for whatever reason, that would be legal,
assuming both parties have an LTC-A and file the FA-10, etc.
Buying a gun from an FFL expressly on the behalf of another person, though,
is definitely illegal, with a few extremely limited exceptions. (eg, like buying
guns as a gift, etc... )
-Mike
That would be fine. It's considered a transfer between two licensed individuals. A straw purchase is when a licensed individual buys for an unlicensed individual.
It's no different if I decide to buy a gun, go shoot it, realize I don't like it, and sell it to someone who holds an LTC. It's perfectly legal.
Sorry, but this is wrong.
You can still have a straw purchase even if both persons are licensed or
not legally prohibited from purchasing a firearm. Period. This is hard to
accept, but it's Federal law. (If you don't believe me, look up the Michael
Lara case. )
It is VERY different because the intent is different. If you buy a gun expressly for the purpose of selling it to someone else, that's more than likely
considered a straw.
-Mike
It is VERY different because the intent is different. If you buy a gun expressly for the purpose of selling it to someone else, that's more than likely
considered a straw.
-Mike
Hence, why his friend should wait awhile before making a transfer.
It is VERY different because the intent is different. If you buy a gun expressly for the purpose of selling it to someone else, that's more than likely considered a straw.
Right you are Ken....Right you are. Good twist on the situation. As Grant said, it's semi-retarded. If he buys it for him, and sells it to you that's fine...but If he buys it for you then it's a straw purchase. When you figure out how to distinguish the two let me know. To make this right, I would wait awhile after your friend purchase his handgun before he decides to sell it because it's just not the right fit for him...
Or should just not post the INTENT on a public forum.
See this thread..... lots of stuff in here about "straws". There likely have
been other threads where the horse has been flogged a bit, too.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=32676
Part of the problem with straws is there is a lot of grey area as to what
does or does not constitute a straw. The most prudent idea is to have
a situation where there is no outward appearance of anything looking like
a straw.
-Mike
wow..i didn't think i could conjure up so much debate...there is no intent of anything, we were talking guns and buying them the other night, and no one there knew the answer to the straw purchase question...i figured someone here would...
wow..i didn't think i could conjure up so much debate...there is no intent of anything, we were talking guns and buying them the other night, and no one there knew the answer to the straw purchase question...i figured someone here would...
This looks like a straw, so now that you know, have the mods delete this thread FOREVER PERMANENTLY, as it is evidence that there are straws in attendance and could be used in a court of law.
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I don't think deleting it really accomplishes anything. The guy was just asking a question- not saying that he actually was intending to violate the law. I would also posit that, if he was sure of the legality status of such a purchase, he wouldn't have asked the question to begin with. Maybe he heard from someone else that it wasn't legal, but just wanted to be sure.
-Mike
Slightly off topic but Glock requires forms to be submitted stating the firearm is being purchased for duty use and not for resale.
wow..i didn't think i could conjure up so much debate...there is no intent of anything, we were talking guns and buying them the other night, and no one there knew the answer to the straw purchase question...i figured someone here would...
While that's great that may or may not actually be relevant here. A LEO in MA can go to a dealer and just buy a Glock without using that program, if they so desire, and then they won't have to deal with any contract agreement business