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Jesus. Massachusetts is f**king retarded. I understand WHY you have to play CSI here to determine when your magazines were manufactured, but Jesus, seriously, reading this thread makes my head hurt. Intelligent people reduced to blithering idiots attempting to follow some obscene, obscure, ridiculous law.
The caliber stamping was moved to make room for the le stampings..
From what I've read, Glock's official position is that there is no way to tell.
I would think if a case ever goes to trial the manufactuer would be asked which of their products were manufatured prior to the federal ban. Acording to Glock the answer is, the ones with the caliber stamp in the original position.
I don't have my original source for this at hand, but according to Glock's legal department, neither the shape or the notch nor the positioning of the caliber stamp provide reliable proof of whether the magazine is pre-ban or not. I know that Talmudic discussions on "how to tell pre from post" will probably never cease, this is Glock's official position on the topic.
Ken
another good reason not to live in MA.
In August a representative from Glock stated this in a room full of cops in Belchertown Ma. I know at least the three officers I was with are using this as a criteria. Maybe the training division and the manufacturing division are not on the same page.
More like the training and sales divisions aren't on the same page as the LEGAL DEPT! They are the ones to answer any questions for MA DAs and AG . . . not the sales or training people.
Not only did I confirm the above with the Glock-USA Chief Legal Counsel, but also with their Lead Technician (Fred). If you doubt me, call Fred yourself (you'll never get thru to the Chief Legal Counsel). And Glock does not publish their employee Email addresses.
another good reason not to buy a Glock.
Does any know of a Ma. gun owner that was charged on that 1 count only!!
A post ban Hi- cap mag.
Fred
another good reason to stick to knitting.
Fixed if for you!
No way, those knitting needles are dangerous....you could impale someone with one.
find some 15 round ones for the Glock 22 pre ban and use them, they may not look pretty, but seriously (and I am going to be doing this for my G26) carry a factory 10 round in the gun, and a high cap pre ban for it's big sister in your pocket or mag holders.
another good reason not to buy a Glock.
True, BUT it was Raised BEFORE 9/13/1994. Thus the confusion. Some quantity of pre-ban mags were mfd with the higher caliber marking. See Sweeney's book (my copy was written BEFORE the Fed Ban expired) and locally talk with Matt (mgr) of AFS who owns a Glock with mags (bought during Fed Ban) that also prove this out.
Fred,
A couple of DAs attempted to bring charges, but after talking with Glock's Legal Counsel, they dropped the prosecution on that particular charge.
Doesn't mean that, there couldn't be a "first".
-Mike
My Glock 33-rounders are not a problem in CT.
Mass is the problem, not Glock.