Self Defense. H2H, Knife, Baton, Gun.

[jmjkd]

Hi guys I have been re-located from the Survival forum. The mod thought I might be better suited on the training forum, since I am a trainer.


Most of my topics will be on training in a Survival situation not for Sport. These topics are not intended for the Martial Artist, but for average people who want to learn some concepts and techniques to protect themselves and their family, so no karate, kung-fu, jargon will be used. Everyday language for everyday people.

The concept is to integrate, cross train, because you don't know what tool/weapon will be best suited for the job.

Testing your skills with a resisting opponent is at the heart of our training. After you test you now have legit content to discuss, evaluate and adjust based on performance rather then imaginary what if's.

Please enjoy some of the topics and fell free to respond, but please remember that this is the internet and nothing is valid unless tested and proven.

 

[coastie]

Still wont pony up the coin to get a dealer/ instructor membership?

 

[Boghog1]

So teach us something a technique for holding a knife in a self defense scenario for example? Am I better off with a baseball bat or a smaller stick what are the pros and cons of each?

 

[ChevyGuy91]

 

[jmjkd]

Still wont pony up the coin to get a dealer/ instructor membership?

Please excuse this gentlemen he likes to follow me around and make faces from a far....

Testing your skills with a resisting opponent is at the heart of our training. After you test, you now have legit content to discuss, evaluate and adjust based on performance rather then imaginary what if's.

May I suggest a visit down with Timber

 

[jmjkd]

So teach us something a technique for holding a knife in a self defense scenario for example? Am I better off with a baseball bat or a smaller stick what are the pros and cons of each?

That's a good question Boghog and thanks for stopping by.
When discussing grips, everything has to do with weight, distance and target. . If we are talking about a bat that you see the pro's use, a double handed grip is best, if it was a little Fenway Park bat you get the kids, you can use a single hand grip depending on your strength, .this would be the a standard grip, or hammer grip. Very common when trying to take someones head off.

A bat would be considered a blunt weapon, like a pool stick, chair, your canteen, a soldiers helmet, a rounded rock meaning it is used for pounding and smashing. Your primary targets, would be the head, any exposed bone, joints, hands, knees, etc things that will shatter.

The knife is a different weapon but the angles of attack are the same as a blunt weapon. Because the knife needs little strength to be utilized the option on grips is more extensive. You can use the standard gip, the reverse grip (Ice pick grip like in the movie Psycho). You can use standard grip blade up or down. Reverse grip blade up or down. Some use the Dumguard grip meaning the thumb is used as well to hold, or clamp. some use grips from fencing. As long as you can hold on tight with flexibility in the wrist any grip will work.

Everything works with a knife, there is good and there is better in regards to targets. The primary targets are any hole, eyes, ears, mouth, nose, and A hole works for thrusting, for slashing exposed nerves, arteries, like the neck and throat, inside the arms, hands, armpit, across the hip, behind the knee, behind the ankle, and so fourth.
We won't know the best grip for you until you try a few variations during live sparring. (Testing) Everyone is different.

 

[Palladin]

IBTL

 

[jmjkd]

Here is a clip of how we train stick, intensity, age and mind set depends on the student. This is Marc Denny an old friend, we come from the same camp. It's all about testing. Look for the grips.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTKqYkvmdkU

 

[coastie]

Please excuse this gentlemen he likes to follow me around and make faces from a far....

Testing your skills with a resisting opponent is at the heart of our training. After you test, you now have legit content to discuss, evaluate and adjust based on performance rather then imaginary what if's.

May I suggest a visit down with Timber

Why dont you pay and then set up a class for NESers. YOu would probably get a few, start training them and make some money. This is part of the reason I wont come down. YOu dont even have the respect for the board to pay and become a member and you try to get people to come train with you. I cant support someone who wont pay to play. My wife and I are currently looking at a gym that is 10 minutes away that provides all the training we will need. THey actually have current fighters with winning records. All I can find on you is you had 3 fighters in the late 90s with a combined losing record. How many competing fighters are you now training? You talk about doing research and I have and I just see the hype. My time is precious, why take a day to come down to test with you? What sets you apart from the hundreds of other gyms between here and Waltham? You pony up and pay and give me a good reason as to why you would be value added and I would come down and see. But all I see is flash and dash right now brother.

 

[jmjkd]

coastie go to a school near you, I have nothing to offer you.

For any other NES members I offer this info FREE of charge out here. Just as I offer my time FREE to the cause like Massachusetts Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors & Armorers Association where I will be this year for the instructor development conference at the Harvard Sportsman club.FREE , or the
International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors where I taught up at Sig Arms..FREE, or later this year The Maine Primitive gathering. FREE.

It's not about tournaments or trophies, belts or rank, it's about people and their limitations, and circumstances. What I do is not generically taught, as with the Mcdojo's up and down the highway. If someone wants to be the next UFC fighter I send them off to one of my student/instructors who are still involved with that tournament stuff. I am more interested in the average guy who cares less about competing in these little events and is only interested in learning some skills meant specifically for him and his family, the same as COPS who only want to learn what is specific to their job, or the primitive guys who want to know what to do with sticks, bone, and stone for self defense.
It's not about the money it's about my craft So no, you are not going to find me in the Mcdojo directory with stats of who beat who. Those days are over and it's easy to know if you won in my eyes....your still alive.

Now coastie if you still stick around on my threads it seems to me like you are the one looking for FREE stuff and since I am a fraud with nothing but has-bins. Leave and don't come back.

 

[Boghog1]

That's a good question Boghog and thanks for stopping by.
When discussing grips, everything has to do with weight, distance and target. . If we are talking about a bat that you see the pro's use, a double handed grip is best, if it was a little Fenway Park bat you get the kids, you can use a single hand grip depending on your strength, .this would be the a standard grip, or hammer grip. Very common when trying to take someones head off.

A bat would be considered a blunt weapon, like a pool stick, chair, your canteen, a soldiers helmet, a rounded rock meaning it is used for pounding and smashing. Your primary targets, would be the head, any exposed bone, joints, hands, knees, etc things that will shatter.

The knife is a different weapon but the angles of attack are the same as a blunt weapon. Because the knife needs little strength to be utilized the option on grips is more extensive. You can use the standard gip, the reverse grip (Ice pick grip like in the movie Psycho). You can use standard grip blade up or down. Reverse grip blade up or down. Some use the Dumguard grip meaning the thumb is used as well to hold, or clamp. some use grips from fencing. As long as you can hold on tight with flexibility in the wrist any grip will work.

Everything works with a knife, there is good and there is better in regards to targets. The primary targets are any hole, eyes, ears, mouth, nose, and A hole works for thrusting, for slashing exposed nerves, arteries, like the neck and throat, inside the arms, hands, armpit, across the hip, behind the knee, behind the ankle, and so fourth.
We won't know the best grip for you until you try a few variations during live sparring. (Testing) Everyone is different.

So can you clarify under what situations what would be best? what do you mean by angles of attack are the same with a knife as they are with a stick? why would I go for holes with a knife? wouldn't the knife make it's own hole? Since I won't go into MA without a darn good reason what are the various hold that I can practice with doing some live sparring?

 

[coastie]

You have still never answered the question as to why you wont even pay to become a member of this board. Is it not worth it to you?

 

[jmjkd]

So can you clarify under what situations what would be best? what do you mean by angles of attack are the same with a knife as they are with a stick? why would I go for holes with a knife? wouldn't the knife make it's own hole? Since I won't go into MA without a darn good reason what are the various hold that I can practice with doing some live sparring?

An angle is the direction you knife will be traveling. So if you were facing your opponent and you slashed on a downward diagonal across the neck and followed through and did a diagonal downward on the other side of the neck, that could be referred to as an angle 1 & 2. the reason people number the angles is so that when your training partner wants to practice a counter against a certain angle he just has to call out the number. This is referred to as training a dead pattern because you know what angle is coming Typically folks use anywhere from 5 to 12 angles depending on how the teaches uses them and these angles are interchangeable with stick, knife, hammer, rifle butt..So if you are out in the woods you can pick up anything and use it as a workable weapon.

You are right about the knife making it's own hole, but it's not going in that's the problem, it's getting stuck on bone and stuff trying to get out that sucks. Now I said those holes are primary targets, the spline the bladder, kidney all make good secondary thrusting targets. It all works with a knife.

With all the funky grips that people use, I personally try to stay with the standard grip, just like you would hold a hammer.

You should start sparring by getting a piece of hard rubber the size of the knife you would carry Then try to hit your opponents knife holding hand. That's called “de-fenging the snake”...just cut the hand. This is a free flowing non choreographed live drill, but still keep it isolated to just cutting the hand for now. You and your partner are free to do any angle you want...make'um up. Go at any speed you want, use any footwork you want, any rhythm, timing, fakes, just be athletic with your movement, like a guard in basketball or a running back. Quick, agile, cat like reflexes.

This drill will develop distance, timing, hand eye coordination, reflexes, and so on. This is better suited for one who is training for unexpected situations because it's not based on fixed patterns like you find in Mcdojo's training.T

the key is to not get cut, many focus to much on cutting. To fix this problem or lack of defense, switch from the hard rubber to a piece of hard wood...you will get your hand out of the way or bust a nuckle...

 

[Gonzo]

What about drunk fighting? Nearly all of the fights I've been in throughout the past ten or fifteen years have involved a lot of booze, foreigners, family, and sometimes Marines, but I think I won them. The problem is that I don't really remember them. I have no idea if weapons were involved. Is there any training to help me make sure I win while I'm totally intoxicated, other than not being the guy in jail or the guy with a bite mark in his armpit?

 

[jmjkd]

What about drunk fighting? Nearly all of the fights I've been in throughout the past ten or fifteen years have involved a lot of booze, foreigners, family, and sometimes Marines, but I think I won them. The problem is that I don't really remember them. I have no idea if weapons were involved. Is there any training to help me make sure I win while I'm totally intoxicated, other than not being the guy in jail or the guy with a bite mark in his armpit?

Gonzo, some might think that is a messed up question, but it really is a good one. The reason I picked the fighting style I picked, is because the way people fight in bars and such didn't look like the way I was learning at my traditional school. ( A traditional school is the place where you drop your kids off in their uniforms).Fred Vallaries Kempo , Tae Kwon Do. Gojo-ryu, all the do's. Kung-Fu, mantis, Crane, I did all that stuff as a kid and older.

I spent a long time partying and did a lot of the same as you. My stomping ground was Bunratties, Farthers, Mr C's, the Casino down the cape, Bike weekend, van runs, you name it, if you can drink it, smoke it, snort it, or swallow it I wanted in. And with that comes, fighting and your buddy's telling you what you did last night and why their pissed at you..Yup I know it well!!

What I did was find a school that resembled how real fights look. How you train is how you fight. Well how do you simulate the f**ced-up ness of a real fight? You start by looking at the common high % movement what was common in all fights,. and it wasn't the crain's beak or the # 2 pion, it was a crude form of boxing and wrestling, holding on for dear life, with your head down and punching as fast and as hard as you can...The hockey fight with a personal twist.. And if you were one of those guys that had a one punch knock out, you were noted...And don't forget the southpaw.

People get real good at fighting F***ed up.
That's why I would take a seasoned street fighter over a black belt belt any day, and that goes for the BJJ Black as well. And that's because of a few reasons,

The Street Fighter.

1.Their use to fighting out side of the dojo in dark loud confusing places, with strangers
2.They were not taught a specific way, so they adapt to their surroundings naturally.
3. They are use to getting hit full tilt.
4.They have a sense to know when to get the hell out of there.
And that's just the to start.

I can't put down traditional fighters, I was one for 15 years, but the training method lacks.

Your question is “ Is there any training to help me make sure I win while I'm totally intoxicated”
NO!!! no matter how good you are at street fighting when your drunk your awareness, judgment of distance, equilibrium, and fatigue will be hindered, But there is a way to deal with other people who are totally drunk, and ways how to deal with that unorthodox movement found in drunken fights. Learn to use and defend high % moves, jab, cross, the football tackle, headlocks, pulling the coat over the head, the groin kick, how to get up when you fall and so fourth, these are moves very common in the street.

The average person might only get into 3-4 fights their whole life but that number can increase based on the person and now the popularity of the UFC and MMA. This is why I teach Cops the basic of MMA and what to expect from young adults these days.

Gonzo do what you want bro, but how I see it these days, clean, and sober makes a better fighter in and out of the ring.

 

[Twigg]

What about drunk fighting?

 

[jmjkd]

Got it twigg. People should have some idea how to handle drunks, and it doesn't matter how the information comes......Thanks....;-)

 

[Bill Nance]

So tell us, O mighty Mall Ninja, what exactly are your qualifications for teaching this?

The guy I pay attention to has a third degree black belt in Kempo Karate, a second in Aikedo (excuse the spelling) and extensive LE training both open hand, open-hand vs. knife and Firearms. (He's been a student of mine as well).

His attitude is that if you get jumped buy a guy with a knife, you've failed so miserably at his teaching you almost DESERVE to to cut, just for a start.

I don't hawk my wares here, hence my currently unpaid status as a member ( I was for years past when I lived in the area). Why are you so special you can't pony up the money that Jim Conway and many others do who hawk their wares on NES? Or are you just that badass of a ninja?

Your training must suck pretty bad if $20 is just too much for your advertising budget on a forum that could net you dozens of students.

I'd pay a few hundred per year if I had a pull of thousands of people within a reachable demographic area for my classes. -Then again, I actually have something of value to offer, so maybe that's the difference.

 

[jmjkd]

Hi Mr Nance thank you for stopping by. First I didn't even realize my $20 membership expired. I will take care of that.... Done.

Who's the Kempo guy you highly recommend?

My qualifications don't matter out here.

I think people can learn SELF DEFENSE with their own friends and family and don't need to come to ME or any MA teacher and pay 1-F**king dime and I will show them how to do it.

I'm sick and tired of all these schools charging crazy rates, having people sign up for a 6-12 month contract with aromatic payments. I'm anti- establishment man, you need training gear F**k the industry, make it your self, you want mats, make them yourself. The Martial Arts world has been ripping off uneducated people for way too long with that mumbo jumbo mystic that they wear around their waist.. The giant killer has arrived. Everything is FREE with me out here.

I'm not looking for students buddy, as a matter of fact I don't even have voice-mail. When folks do reach me, I tell them to go check out other places first, if it's not what you want, call me back.

Thanks for posting.

 

[coastie]

Hi Mr Nance thank you for stopping by. First I didn't even realize my $20 membership expired. I will take care of that.... Done.

Who's the Kempo guy you highly recommend?

My qualifications don't matter out here.

I think people can learn SELF DEFENSE with their own friends and family and don't need to come to ME or any MA teacher and pay 1-F**king dime and I will show them how to do it.

I'm sick and tired of all these schools charging crazy rates, having people sign up for a 6-12 month contract with aromatic payments. I'm anti- establishment man, you need training gear F**k the industry, make it your self, you want mats, make them yourself. The Martial Arts world has been ripping off uneducated people for way too long with that mumbo jumbo mystic that they wear around their waist.. The giant killer has arrived. Everything is FREE with me out here.

I'm not looking for students buddy, as a matter of fact I don't even have voice-mail. When folks do reach me, I tell them to go check out other places first, if it's not what you want, call me back.

Thanks for posting.

Why are you so opposed to showing your creds? I would think that if you could list your quals/ experience you would be able to get students. You used to have a dojo so you at least tried to make money at it and from the prices listed on your website you didnt come cheap. It looks like in the 90s you were the man. NOw you are anti industry. I can only guess that you got beat out by the Mcdojos.

 

[jmjkd]

I will give one credential, only one matters to me, all the other black belt and accolades crap , letters of appreciation and plaques of recognition I have mean nothing. Just wall hangings.

This one matters.
I am a Certified Full Instructor in Jeet kune Do, Filipino Martial Arts, Rapid Assault Tactics, and Combat knife
under Paul Vunak and Progressive Fighting Systems. And have the certs to prove it. you know Vunak right??? The trainer for SEAL TEAM SIX. You probably think he is a fake too.
http://scientificfighting.com/secondary/about.html

I started training with Vu in 1980 before he went to train the SEAL 's and directly after he returned and I became a full instructor in 91. Vunak is on the West coast and I'm on the East and I am very happy to take his overflow...No I am not looking for students and yes I closed my school and now have a private practice.. it's not open to the public and it's through recommendation, referral or those who insist on my services..

Forget the fact that I am considered the Pioneer and Godfather to MMA in the North East.
Forget the fact that I was Hired by the Ultimate Fighting Championship UFC to be their Expert witness and consultant to the U.S. Supreme court to explain exactly what Mixed Martial Arts is.
Forget the fact I was chosen to represent Rickson Gracie to spread the word of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu in NE..
Forget the fact I just did a 4 hour interview with the Bostonian Magazine regarding these same facts......just saying..LOL

Na, don't listen to me dude those folks are all wrong and you are right. as I said, I have nothing to offer you. ..GO.

 

[Twigg]

I didn't even realize my $20 membership expired. I will take care of that.... Done.

Hmm, I can't recall your screen name ever being in green.

You sure you bought a membership here ? Perhaps you are confused.

 

[jmjkd]

Yup, I had one, i guess I wasn't paying attention to my renewal notice. Sorry if that offended anyone. like I said I will send that off ASAP..

 

[mcb]

I will give one credential, only one matters to me, all the other black belt and accolades crap , letters of appreciation and plaques of recognition I have mean nothing. Just wall hangings.

This one matters.
I am a Certified Full Instructor in Jeet kune Do, Filipino Martial Arts, Rapid Assault Tactics, and Combat knife
under Paul Vunak and Progressive Fighting Systems. And have the certs to prove it. you know Vunak right??? The trainer for SEAL TEAM SIX. You probably think he is a fake too.
http://scientificfighting.com/secondary/about.html

I started training with Vu in 1980 before he went to train the SEAL 's and directly after he returned and I became a full instructor in 91. Vunak is on the West coast and I'm on the East and I am very happy to take his overflow...No I am not looking for students and yes I closed my school and now have a private practice.. it's not open to the public and it's through recommendation, referral or those who insist on my services..

Forget the fact that I am considered the Pioneer and Godfather to MMA in the North East.
Forget the fact that I was Hired by the Ultimate Fighting Championship UFC to be their Expert witness and consultant to the U.S. Supreme court to explain exactly what Mixed Martial Arts is.
Forget the fact I was chosen to represent Rickson Gracie to spread the word of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu in NE..
Forget the fact I just did a 4 hour interview with the Bostonian Magazine regarding these same facts......just saying..LOL

Na, don't listen to me dude those folks are all wrong and you are right. as I said, I have nothing to offer you. ..GO.

Well, at least you are professional about sharing your resume. /sarcasm

 

[In God We Trust]

Why do all you guys constantly jump on people because they don't have a green membership? Are you shareholders on NES? Seriously, why do you care? Let Derek worry about his own money. If someone is not trying to sell stuff on the site, why should they spend the $20 just to socialize?

This jmjkd guy seems to be starting threads with discussions about martial arts and from what he says it sounds like he knows what he is talking about. I just don't get why you guys are jumping on him because he doesn't want to give a double sawbuck to chat online.

 

[Deleted member 12999]

I used to study martial arts... Now I just have a seething hatred for the human race. It seems to be working.

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[newenglandjeff]

Why do all you guys constantly jump on people because they don't have a green membership? Are you shareholders on NES? Seriously, why do you care? Let Derek worry about his own money. If someone is not trying to sell stuff on the site, why should they spend the $20 just to socialize?

This jmjkd guy seems to be starting threads with discussions about martial arts and from what he says it sounds like he knows what he is talking about. I just don't get why you guys are jumping on him because he doesn't want to give a double sawbuck to chat online.

I think it's not so much the subject matter, but the manner in which the OP broaches the topics that people find off putting. If Derek has not clamped down on the free ads yet, he probably doesn't care.

 

[gulfmp]

My drill sergeant told me not to worry about people who say they know karate, tae kwon do, or any of those other asian sounding martial arts....because he was gonna teach me ching ching (the sound made as he racked the slide of his 1911!)

 

[coastie]

I will give one credential, only one matters to me, all the other black belt and accolades crap , letters of appreciation and plaques of recognition I have mean nothing. Just wall hangings.

This one matters.
I am a Certified Full Instructor in Jeet kune Do, Filipino Martial Arts, Rapid Assault Tactics, and Combat knife
under Paul Vunak and Progressive Fighting Systems. And have the certs to prove it. you know Vunak right??? The trainer for SEAL TEAM SIX. You probably think he is a fake too.
http://scientificfighting.com/secondary/about.html

I started training with Vu in 1980 before he went to train the SEAL 's and directly after he returned and I became a full instructor in 91. Vunak is on the West coast and I'm on the East and I am very happy to take his overflow...No I am not looking for students and yes I closed my school and now have a private practice.. it's not open to the public and it's through recommendation, referral or those who insist on my services..

Forget the fact that I am considered the Pioneer and Godfather to MMA in the North East.
Forget the fact that I was Hired by the Ultimate Fighting Championship UFC to be their Expert witness and consultant to the U.S. Supreme court to explain exactly what Mixed Martial Arts is.
Forget the fact I was chosen to represent Rickson Gracie to spread the word of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu in NE..
Forget the fact I just did a 4 hour interview with the Bostonian Magazine regarding these same facts......just saying..LOL

Na, don't listen to me dude those folks are all wrong and you are right. as I said, I have nothing to offer you. ..GO.

So was that so hard to do? You are the one who always says to do your own research and verify. Hard to do when I type in your name and all I get is your website and youtube vids.

 

[coastie]

When someone refers to themselves as an expert they should willingly provide information to back it up. To claim that and then say quals dont matter puts ones expert status in doubt. Trust but verify and based on his past posts I find it hard to trust anything Joe Maffei says unless it can be backed up with evidence. A PFS certification can be verified. An interview with the Bostonian if it is published can be verified. That he is the Godfather of MMA in the Northeast? I think that is probably a matter of opinion.