I Thought I'd post this troubling experience some reloaders are having (from Midway site) with this particular bullet. If anyone has reloaded with this bullet or has any knowledge of it please comment or does this gent, below, have it correct?
Remington Golden Saber Bullets 38 Special (357 Diameter) 125 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
Rating: * - - -
Date Posted: 3/8/2005
Adam Craig of Kokomo, IN
Review:
WARNING!!! READ CAREFULLY!!! I purchased 1000 of these Golden Sabers based on a lot of research in regards to bullet performance. I was planning on using these in my Taurus 357 Mag, but with 38 Special cases, a common practice. I got the cases, the bullets, primers, etc... I loaded the correct amount of Unique listed at the Alliant website. I took the loads to the range, and when firing, something seemed strange. Weak results sometimes, and other times the loads just went "Poof" resulting in a bullet lodged in the bore.
After a careful investigation covering all the components, I have traced the problem back to the bullet itself. The Golden Sabers only have 0.15 inches of bore diameter bullet at the very rear, thus requiring the rear 0.15" of the bullet to engage the cylinder throat prior to leaving the case. Fired in a 38 Special revolver, no problems would be expected, BUT when shooting 38 Golden Sabers in a 357 Revolver, the bullet must travel 0.11 inches after leaving the case before the bore diameter engages the cylinder throat. This causes the cylinder/bore to be "unsealed" allowing large quantities of gas to blow by the bullet. This in turn causes a rapid decrease in bore pressure causing the powder to burn very poorly. Bullets, when they actually fired, were anywhere from 350fps to 750fps, far from the expected 1000fps listed by Alliant.
Please take great caution when using these bullets along with 38 Special cases in a 357 revolver. Bullets can easily become lodged in the bore, turning your pistol into a hand grenade if the stuck bullet isn't cleared before firing again. REMINGTON needs to put out a warning on this condition. Following all standard procedures for reloading with their products can repeatedly cause hazardous conditions that might not be recognized by inexperienced shooters/reloaders. I will be following up with Remington very soon. Very poor product design!!!
Remington Golden Saber Bullets 38 Special (357 Diameter) 125 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
Rating: * - - -
Date Posted: 3/8/2005
Adam Craig of Kokomo, IN
Review:
WARNING!!! READ CAREFULLY!!! I purchased 1000 of these Golden Sabers based on a lot of research in regards to bullet performance. I was planning on using these in my Taurus 357 Mag, but with 38 Special cases, a common practice. I got the cases, the bullets, primers, etc... I loaded the correct amount of Unique listed at the Alliant website. I took the loads to the range, and when firing, something seemed strange. Weak results sometimes, and other times the loads just went "Poof" resulting in a bullet lodged in the bore.
After a careful investigation covering all the components, I have traced the problem back to the bullet itself. The Golden Sabers only have 0.15 inches of bore diameter bullet at the very rear, thus requiring the rear 0.15" of the bullet to engage the cylinder throat prior to leaving the case. Fired in a 38 Special revolver, no problems would be expected, BUT when shooting 38 Golden Sabers in a 357 Revolver, the bullet must travel 0.11 inches after leaving the case before the bore diameter engages the cylinder throat. This causes the cylinder/bore to be "unsealed" allowing large quantities of gas to blow by the bullet. This in turn causes a rapid decrease in bore pressure causing the powder to burn very poorly. Bullets, when they actually fired, were anywhere from 350fps to 750fps, far from the expected 1000fps listed by Alliant.
Please take great caution when using these bullets along with 38 Special cases in a 357 revolver. Bullets can easily become lodged in the bore, turning your pistol into a hand grenade if the stuck bullet isn't cleared before firing again. REMINGTON needs to put out a warning on this condition. Following all standard procedures for reloading with their products can repeatedly cause hazardous conditions that might not be recognized by inexperienced shooters/reloaders. I will be following up with Remington very soon. Very poor product design!!!
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