Projos- when did they become so expensive?

[alx]

Rant.

Cheapest I can find coated bullets blue/ bayou is about 7.5 cents delivered and for large amounts. Wtf?

With 7.5 cents per primer, free brass and couple cents for powder a 9mm now is squarely at 18 cents or so per finished round. Compare to 25 cents for factory ammo and it -almost- not worth reloading 9mm.

Grrrrrr….

 

[jct61765]

So, 1000 rounds of factory ammo is $250, and reloads are $180. You're saving $70. How much did you think you'd save?

 

[67ray]

9mm was never a big money saver to reload. To me you do it so you can tune your load and get something specific or a special projo.

1000 rnd case FMJ 9mm is down to $230 per case even.

 

[alx]

Well, you are viewing this the wrong way I believe. After the shortage ammo prices came down, but reloading supplies really did not. I was able to buy primers for 10-12 cents and projos for 3.5 cents during the height of the pandemic. To make things fair primers now should be at 4.5-5 cents and projos at 5 cents or so. That did not happened. Hence my Karen diatribe

 

[Mountain]

Never loaded 9mm, may never. Not worth the effort for me either.

 

[whacko]

I'm reloading 44mag at $15.64 per 50 rounds. That's with a 240 grain Keith style cast bullet (purchased not cast myself) and that's at 9 bucks a pack for primers and 38 bucks a pound for powder. Try finding 44mag at that price

But yeah economies of scale keeps 9mm factory pretty cheep....I don't own any 9mm handguns but if I did I'd find it hard to justify that time at the bench.

 

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[Boghog1]

So, 1000 rounds of factory ammo is $250, and reloads are $180. You're saving $70. How much did you think you'd save?

How long to reload on a single stage? Progressive?

 

[alx]

How long to reload on a single stage? Progressive?

… about 30 minutes going at slow- ish speed on Mark 7 with autodrive … about an hour on a Dillon 750 with case and bullet feeder pulling the handle by hand

 

[Boghog1]

Looks like it isn't worth it on my rock chucker

 

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This!
Learn to cast and then you’re looking at
$1 per pound (or less) for lead. 124 grain 9mm is 1.7 cents a pop.

Pretty decent savings and the initial investment can be very low. You’ll pay yourself back in no time.

 

[Uzi2]

Nothing in the gun/ammo world is getting less expensive. Yes there are temporary spikes and dips, but the steady progression of prices is going up.

I remember when Winchester 100rd Value Pack 9mm ammo was $6.95 a box ......everywhere, all day long. L7A1 Hirtenberger 9mm subgun ammo was $116.00 a can of 1200rds...... Wolf 7.62x39 was $79.00/1000rds, and a lot of people balked at those prices.

If you are in this game for the long haul, buy what you can, as cheap as you can, whenever you can and salt it away. The prices of ammo and components is never going back down to meet any past timeline.

 

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Was waiting for this one.
Casting your own is paramount if you really want to minimize reloading costs.

 

[pastera]

How long to reload on a single stage? Progressive?

Two to three hours on my progressive.
But that ammo is going to be better than the cheap $0.25/round garbage.
If you tune it to your carry ammo point of impact then your saving a lot more than $0.08/round.

 

[headednorth]

Rant.

Cheapest I can find coated bullets blue/ bayou is about 7.5 cents delivered and for large amounts. Wtf?

With 7.5 cents per primer, free brass and couple cents for powder a 9mm now is squarely at 18 cents or so per finished round. Compare to 25 cents for factory ammo and it -almost- not worth reloading 9mm.

Grrrrrr….

Pretty much the same situation pre covid except the numbers are higher. Try plugging those values into an inflation calculator. Maybe the diff between handloads and factory ammo is the same only at a higher level

 

[mac1911]

Rant.

Cheapest I can find coated bullets blue/ bayou is about 7.5 cents delivered and for large amounts. Wtf?

With 7.5 cents per primer, free brass and couple cents for powder a 9mm now is squarely at 18 cents or so per finished round. Compare to 25 cents for factory ammo and it -almost- not worth reloading 9mm.

Grrrrrr….

coated cast bullets are cheaper now than before covid ?

 

[DW357]

9mm was never a big money saver to reload. To me you do it so you can tune your load and get something specific or a special projo.
.

This. I don’t need to be shooting hot factory loads with extra recoil. Compared to my softer shooting 132-135 power factor loads.

If I didn’t compete and just punched paper from a stationary position I’d prob just buy factory - at least more recently with ammo prices dropping. Not during peak shortages.

 

[pastera]

coated cast bullets are cheaper now than before covid ?

There are some deals

 

[DW357]

Which brings up a good point. Being able to reload during a shortage and not worry about what Targetsports or my local gunshop has in stock was a nice feeling during the Covid panic

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

Which brings up a good point. Being able to reload during a shortage and not worry about what Targetsports or my local gunshop has in stock was a nice feeling during the Covid panic

Until you run out of projectiles and don’t know how to cast

 

[DW357]

Rant.

Cheapest I can find coated bullets blue/ bayou is about 7.5 cents delivered and for large amounts. Wtf?

With 7.5 cents per primer, free brass and couple cents for powder a 9mm now is squarely at 18 cents or so per finished round. Compare to 25 cents for factory ammo and it -almost- not worth reloading 9mm.

Grrrrrr….

What bullet weight you use?

 

[DW357]

Until you run out of projectiles and don’t know how to cast

lmao. But there’s sooo many bullet makers nowadays I’m not worried about running out or not being able to find them. Though during the Covid panic there were some shipping delays depending on the bullet company.

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

lmao. But there’s sooo many bullet makers nowadays I’m not worried about running out or not being able to find them. Though during the Covid panic there were some shipping delays depending on the bullet company.

Yeah there were tons of powder and primer manufacturers too.

I will get you to the dark side some day.

 

[240Geezer]

Which brings up a good point. Being able to reload during a shortage and not worry about what Targetsports or my local gunshop has in stock was a nice feeling during the Covid panic

^^^^^^^^^^THAT

 

[DW357]

Yeah there were tons of powder and primer manufacturers too.

I will get you to the dark side some day.

someday. I got so much shit in my basement and garage. Throw in a 6 month old I don’t have the space lol

 

[DW357]

^^^^^^^^^^THAT

I literally didn’t change my shooting habits during the panic. I remember numerous people at my gun club complaining how hard and expensive it is to get ammo. Meanwhile I got a Tupperware filled with 9mm ammo blasting away. Sucks to be you. Sorry

 

[240Geezer]

My reloading area is about 6 square feet. Same for casting.
I cast in the shed. I reload in the basement. Either way the space is minimal. I doubt I'll ever move to a Dillon 650 or such. Right now it's a Lee APP and that's ok to learn on.

 

[DW357]

My time to cast was before I had the baby lol. Someday…

 

[greencobra]

almost- not worth reloading 9mm.

yeah, been like that for a while. i bought thousands and thousands of bullets right in the middle of covid. i panicked when components were drying up and bought every time i saw them. i have enough to last the rest of my lifetime. primers and powder too. there was a powder i used for 5.56 and i couldn't get it. i nickled and dimed my way to a 32 pound surplus of it. an 8 pounder here, a pound or two there. and that's on top of the other powders i use. i actually like reloading. it's a therapy for me, zen like i guess. if i really want to smell the coffee, i cover the progressive and pound out a few thousand on the single stage.

 

[38ExtraSpecial]

My time to cast was before I had the baby lol. Someday…

Excuses excuses.