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Picking out a shotgun

Discussion in 'Shotgun Competition' started by DarthRevan, May 8, 2019.

  1. DarthRevan

    DarthRevan Instructor NES Member

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    I’ve started shooting trap at Georgetown the last month and I’m starting to get a hang for it, third time out and scored a 20 on one of my rounds. Seeing as I’m currently borrowing a Browning Citori I went looking at prices knowing full well this isn’t a poor mans sport by any means. I’d like to try all of the sporting clay games at some point, do I have to worry about type specific shotguns for specific games or can I get by with any semi or o/u?
    If by some miracle I continue to improve and decide to go competitive where would I start looking for organized shoots beyond local club nights?
     

  2. turbo38gn

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    Welcome to my new Obsession!! I recently got into shooting trap and have purchased about 10 shotguns.. I started with a semi, Franchi, by Bennelli… liked it, but bought a new Benelli Super Sport after shouldering one at Kittery trading post.. Shot that for about 15 rounds, got up to 19-20.. then tried a Browning Citori, liked the breakopen design much better, so I picked up a used older Citori.. liked that a lot. Then I was introduced to a BT99 by Browning.. ended up buying about 6 different models of the 99 including the BT100's, fell in love with the higher rib on the 100.. was very happy with it, since it was a single shot, I also kept my Browning CXT O\U in case I shot something other than Trap. In the end I spent a bunch on a Browning 725 unsingle combo, so that I could shoot the unsingle for trap and have the O\U barrels for other sporting clays.

    I now have a couple of BT99's and a BT100, both single Trap guns for sale if you are interested.. I'm keeping 2 of my other BT100's and one BT99.. I'm still a gun hog..:)
     
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  3. boilermaker

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    Any o/u or semi will allow to shoot trap, skeet & five stand. As Turbo38 shows, some people prefer some guns for some games. But you can go out and shoot any game with your Citori.
     
  4. DarthRevan

    DarthRevan Instructor NES Member

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    I’ve been looking at Beretta’s and I like their A3/400s or maybe a 690 if I could find one used. It’s going to take me a while to set aside enough money for one.
     
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    Absolutely right on here.. For me, I want to have the best chance of breaking clays, no matter what form of shooting clays I participate in. I found shooting the semi, I could find a good rhythm, but the procedure to unload and load a semi distracted me. The more I shoot, the more I realize how important concentration is. Fumbling with a semi on the line, doesn't work for me. Shooting with a break open, O/U simplified that part of my game. When I began shooting the BT99 single barrel, it seemed even simpler. I plan on focusing on Trap, hence, my choice to stick with a single barrel. I also found that the length of barrel also plays a part in our game. Trap shooters prefer 34" barrels, hence another reason why I chose the single barrel, 34" for trap. Sporting, skeet and other forms of clay shooting, the barrel length of choice is 30-32" max, so when choosing a gun, keep those numbers in mind as well... I am far from a pro, but those are the basics I have learned in my short stint in this great sport. It doesn't mean you can't shoot a 26" O\U well, but I try to learn from the guys that are successful.
     
  6. johnnymac101

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    I picked a Citori CXT during a Black Friday sale and Browning rebate two year back. I shoot trap with occasional doubles, so the one gun is perfect.
    Good luck with the hunting process!!

    The ATA (Amateur Trapshooting Association > Home) and MATA (Massachusetts Amateur Trapshooting Association) should give info on matches.
    When you hit the Megabucks you can join Minuteman Minute Man Sportsman's Club – Minute Man Sportsman's Club Is One Of The Finest Privately Owned Shotgun Only Facilities On The East Coast
     
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    That CXT is a beautiful all around shotgun. 30 or 32" I hated selling mine, but with the 725, I just couldn't hang onto it. If you look around, Gunbroker or online, I'm sure you can find one of those for a reasonable price. I purchased mine off GB used, with 2 rounds of trap through it for $1350.. just have to be there when they pop up.
     
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  8. MisterHappy

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    OP: Find a gun that fits. If it has 2 barrels, or is a pump or autoloader, you can shoot all the clay sports.

    It's not a poor person's game, but you don't have to be rolling in the dough to get going.

    Once, someone asked me, "I have $1000, and want to shoot Trap. What sort of gun should I buy?" My reply: "A $300 shotgun, and $700 in ammo. By the time you've used that up, you'll have an idea of what you want and need, and won't have to ask."

    I'm not an A-level shooter, but I've turned in more that one 25 with an old beater Browning A5 or a Smith & Wesson 1000. If the gun fits you, and you follow the fundamentals, you'll be fine.

    When 1 target out of 100 makes a real difference, then you need a specialized gun.

    As for competitions: when you can shoot a round of Trap without thinking too much, moving out of turn or scaring the other shooters, you're good to go. The Mass State shoot is coming up in June. Ask around your Club to see who is going. It's a busy place, and having a sensei is a good idea, your first time. Since you have no official score (as far as teh ATA is concerned, you'll probably in in the B or A Class (it's in the program that they send out), so coming home with hardware is unlikely. However, play the Lewis (see under my avatar [laugh]). It's a way of giving everyone a chance at a prize!

    One note about "real" competitions: You will have 100 or 200 shots to fire. The bigger shoots is 4 rounds in the AM, 4 in the PM. It's a long day. Fatigue is a factor. If you're shooting at the Club, make sure that you get on (4) squads, back to back, to get a feel for it. If the "real" shoot is running perfectly, (4) squads will take a bit over an hour. At a normally run shoot in the real world, it's about 90 minutes. If you're not used to it, it can be tough.

    If you have confidence in whatever gun you use (it fits you physically and mentally), you relax, and have fun. One of the best shooters I ever saw was at the Mass State Shoot a few years back. 28" barrel on a Winchester Model 12

    Winchester Model 1912 - Wikipedia

    It's not the arrow, it's the indigenous person with the arrow . [wink]
     
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    Just wanted to add onto this: there's tons of used Remington 1100s out there and the gun was designed for trap and skeet. They can be bought for like $300-450 in decent condition.
     
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    I have enjoyed the minimal amount of skeet shooting I've done at Springfield Sportsman Club in Monson. Some of it is definitely too rich for my blood.
     
  11. mac1911

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    Shotgun choice or "set up " plays a huge roll in what you get.
    If you want to dabble in all games get a O/U with removable chokes from open to full.
    Now quick and dirty
    Trap= targets are hit going out and up so "trap" guns are "set up" to shoot high. Or a "built in lead" ...thats why you see high ribs and raised comes. Also why the combs are parallel . This keeps your eye " the rear sight" the same height when you mount the rifle. Trap generally is a full choke game. Double Trap you might toss in a modified for your first shot.

    Skeet : the targets are always crossing you and are close shots. So cyl or skeet choke and quicker swings hence shorter barrels
    Although while where at it if the next Olympic champion uses a 34" barrel to win skeet you can bet your going to see the 3 4" barrels on the line soon enough, once upon a time 24-26" barrels for skeet where plenty long enough.
    Chokes in skeet are generally open,skeet
    Now if you intend to go full tilt to play skeet and compete its a 4 gauge game 12,20,28,410 dont worry they make "sub gauge tubes" for most O/U's or get a 4 barrel set $$$$


    Sporting clays...well what can you say. Theres so many different target presentations you need to carry chokes and different shells depending on the target and presentation.
    When I go to "play" shooting clays I often bring my 28" 870 field gun and a handful of chokes and do my best.

    i would say give it a few months and use club guns and other shooters guns. Poke around and read up on shot gun fit.

    In the end if you try to fit one gun for all the games you going to have to know the holds/swings for each game and target It will lean towards a "flat" shooting field gun. Then you just have to accept your limitations in each event.

    I shot trap for years with the 870 but had to pass the bird to hit it. So I started adding to my rib and used mole skin on the comb to "raise" my point of impact.
    i also like 32" barrel for Trap . Its not a "swing" to the target like skeet. Its more of a short smooth turn/rise

    My trap gun is set up in such a way that the target is above the barrel (looks like you will miss) but it crushes them as its set up to shoot "high"
     
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