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What did I miss?You may not be doing any quals at Hopkinton if the Karens get their way and ban all outdoor shooting in town.
A citizens petition to require all range shooting be done indoors.What did I miss?
I juuuuust saw that in the hopkington thread.A citizens petition to require all range shooting be done indoors.
Not for nothing, if you read RI §§ 11-47-15 and 16, nothing authorizes a town to require a re-firing of the marksmanship "qualification." Nothing says that the qualification have been minimally recent, and nothing authorizes an "expiration" of a prior qualification certification. The statute requires that an applicant have qualified prior to applying, and if you have done that once, the statute is completely satisfied. Nothing in § 11-47-11 authorizes cities or towns to impose requirements beyond those of the statute, and the "shall issue" language of § 11-47-11, as interpreted by Gadomski v. Tavares,
No. 2014-72-M.P., 2015 WL 1844454 (R.I. Apr. 22, 2015), pretty clearly negates the authority of cities and towns to impose requirements beyond those of the statute.
Sure, the law may say they have to process your application, but does it say how quickly they have to do it? It might take years if they really didn’t want to do it.I know of people in RI that live in say North Providence, who is an absolute PIA to get a CCW from, who have a carry permit from another state, say Utah or New Hampshire, which then makes them eligible to go through whatever town they want, like East Greenwich or West Greenwich. Unless they changed the law most towns have to process apps from people who live in that town OR have a permit to carry from another state who then apply in said town
Well the RI Supreme court said 90 days in Archer vs. Smithfield. That's why it helps to remind town solicitors of thisSure, the law may say they have to process your application, but does it say how quickly they have to do it? It might take years if they really didn’t want to do it.
I’ll respond when I’ve stopped laughing and peeing my pants. We’re on five months with no word.Well the RI Supreme court said 90 days in Archer vs. Smithfield. That's why it helps to remind town solicitors of this
Still doesn't change the fact of what the court said in the Archer ruling. Towns will take as long as they want when people let them, other people make noise and get their permits quicker. It's all on how people approach itI’ll respond when I’ve stopped laughing and peeing my pants. We’re on five months with no word.
The case was Archer v McGarry. Jim’s lawsuit was only about a licensing authority accepting an application and “If qualified” the permit shall be issued.Still doesn't change the fact of what the court said in the Archer ruling. Towns will take as long as they want when people let them, other people make noise and get their permits quicker. It's all on how people approach it
Missed this when posted.Are RI Qualifications in Hopkinton still possible?
I think that is the case no matter where you get it.Has anyone received a non-resident from Portsmouth RI? It looks like the simplest I've seen. It doesn't even ask for passport photos.... I'm assuming I would need to show up to be photographed and pick it up?
Has anyone received a non-resident from Portsmouth RI? It looks like the simplest I've seen. It doesn't even ask for passport photos.... I'm assuming I would need to show up to be photographed and pick it up?
That's a very good point. I *assumed* they all did, I have not asked. 6 months.... I'll skip them. Thank you.Have you checked yet to see if Portsmouth is even accepting non-resident applications? A few years ago, I tried, and was told that even though we had owned a (2nd) home there for 20 years, that they were not accepting applications unless Portsmouth was your primary residence. I ended up getting mine from Cranston. But now that I'm up for renewal, and a full time resident of Portsmouth, I submitted my application here, and was told it will take approximately six months to process.
Frank
No.does the notary have to be a RI notary?
Missed this when posted.
Yes.
Some people on here can be a pain.My blood pressure has been low lately so I'm ready to start the RI Non-Res process. I don't have property in Rhode Island but pass through weekly on my way to Westport, MA. Just picked up an Sig .45 that I would use in the qualification. Ran into a guy at Four Seasons that said the process wasn't bad but I didn't write down the town he went through. Would definitely be in if you are planning something.
Some people on here can be a pain.
People are terrified to tell others what town they went through.
Everyone bombarded Foster and it takes about 6 to 8 months to get a license now.
Cranston is a good Licensing authority. North Kingstown is good too. So is Coventry, Narragansett, East Greenwich and Exeter.
Cranston doesn’t have the same process. They have a renewal application that is different from the original.Once word gets out that a RI city or town is "good" to go through then EVERYONE wants to go through it. I think that happened in Johnston. Foster is good, but takes forever.
Each town seems to have a variation on how they implement their process. For example, Cranston requires re qualification with every renewal. They also require a lot of documents to be notarized that aren't required by law. All three of my reference letters had to be notarized. Cranston also doesn't notify you when the permit is about to expire.
Essentially, Cranston requires the same process with each renewal.
Hopefully, I won't be living up here by the time mine is due to be renewed.
You don’t need a reason to apply to any licensing authority. it’s just them whining with no legal basis.nothing on the EG website that I can find about a CCWP. Since my inlaws live there, I have a valid reason on why to apply in that town.. not just.. picked one based on internet talk.
Yup, and Foster loves the backlog. It's enough to keep one officer in OT for a very long time. He works like 4-5 hours evey Sunday just doing LTC's and makes some extra $$$. And from what I hear he's the only one (nice guy too). Things may change with a new chief, but who knows. The nice thing about Foster is it's minimal headache. Unless you're in a rush, it's basically a form, fee, notarized ID's, and a couple names for references (which they didn't call in my case) and wait.Once word gets out that a RI city or town is "good" to go through then EVERYONE wants to go through it. I think that happened in Johnston. Foster is good, but takes forever.
Each town seems to have a variation on how they implement their process. For example, Cranston requires re qualification with every renewal. They also require a lot of documents to be notarized that aren't required by law. All three of my reference letters had to be notarized. Cranston also doesn't notify you when the permit is about to expire.
Essentially, Cranston requires the same process with each renewal.
Hopefully, I won't be living up here by the time mine is due to be renewed.
Woonsocket is a pain. We had a guy years ago who said he wasn’t going to qualify annually. They said he had to. He responded that he won’t and he would show up in the lobby after a year and they can arrest him so he could sue them. They told him not to worry about the annual qualificationYup, and Foster loves the backlog. It's enough to keep one officer in OT for a very long time. He works like 4-5 hours evey Sunday just doing LTC's and makes some extra $$$. And from what I hear he's the only one (nice guy too). Things may change with a new chief, but who knows. The nice thing about Foster is it's minimal headache. Unless you're in a rush, it's basically a form, fee, notarized ID's, and a couple names for references (which they didn't call in my case) and wait.
I think most towns require a re-qualification with every renewal. I thought the shooting qualification was one and done, but not so. If there is a town that doesn't require a re-qualification I'd like to know. Be one thing to worry about.
Some (Woonsocket comes to mind) require qualification EVERY YEAR....tell me they aren't trying to discourage personal carry
Cranston doesn’t have the same process. They have a renewal application that is different from the original.
I am not planning anything, but if someone wants to organize a group they can work out a date with me. My requirement is $20/head, minimum $100 to do the job, payable to Hopkinton Sportsmens Association. My time is donated for the benefit of the club and NES members.My blood pressure has been low lately so I'm ready to start the RI Non-Res process. I don't have property in Rhode Island but pass through weekly on my way to Westport, MA. Just picked up a Sig .45 that I would use in the qualification. Ran into a guy at Four Seasons that said the process wasn't bad but I didn't write down the town he went through. Would definitely be in if you are planning something.