Non-Resident RI permit.

[rogersmithiii]

You may not be doing any quals at Hopkinton if the Karens get their way and ban all outdoor shooting in town.

 

[chris_1001]

You may not be doing any quals at Hopkinton if the Karens get their way and ban all outdoor shooting in town.

What did I miss?

 

[Rob Boudrie]

What did I miss?

A citizens petition to require all range shooting be done indoors.

 

[chris_1001]

A citizens petition to require all range shooting be done indoors.

I juuuuust saw that in the hopkington thread.

f***ers.

 

[pinefd]

Not for nothing, if you read RI §§ 11-47-15 and 16, nothing authorizes a town to require a re-firing of the marksmanship "qualification." Nothing says that the qualification have been minimally recent, and nothing authorizes an "expiration" of a prior qualification certification. The statute requires that an applicant have qualified prior to applying, and if you have done that once, the statute is completely satisfied. Nothing in § 11-47-11 authorizes cities or towns to impose requirements beyond those of the statute, and the "shall issue" language of § 11-47-11, as interpreted by Gadomski v. Tavares,
No. 2014-72-M.P., 2015 WL 1844454 (R.I. Apr. 22, 2015), pretty clearly negates the authority of cities and towns to impose requirements beyond those of the statute.

That's great news, except that I'm guessing most towns, including mine, are saying otherwise. Here's what the instructions for Portsmouth say: "Qualifications will only be accepted up to one year old and you cannot qualify yourself."


Frank

 

[Lokdog]

I know of people in RI that live in say North Providence, who is an absolute PIA to get a CCW from, who have a carry permit from another state, say Utah or New Hampshire, which then makes them eligible to go through whatever town they want, like East Greenwich or West Greenwich. Unless they changed the law most towns have to process apps from people who live in that town OR have a permit to carry from another state who then apply in said town

 

[Cuz]

I know of people in RI that live in say North Providence, who is an absolute PIA to get a CCW from, who have a carry permit from another state, say Utah or New Hampshire, which then makes them eligible to go through whatever town they want, like East Greenwich or West Greenwich. Unless they changed the law most towns have to process apps from people who live in that town OR have a permit to carry from another state who then apply in said town

Sure, the law may say they have to process your application, but does it say how quickly they have to do it? It might take years if they really didn’t want to do it.

 

[Lokdog]

Sure, the law may say they have to process your application, but does it say how quickly they have to do it? It might take years if they really didn’t want to do it.

Well the RI Supreme court said 90 days in Archer vs. Smithfield. That's why it helps to remind town solicitors of this

 

[rogersmithiii]

Well the RI Supreme court said 90 days in Archer vs. Smithfield. That's why it helps to remind town solicitors of this

I’ll respond when I’ve stopped laughing and peeing my pants. We’re on five months with no word.

 

[Lokdog]

I’ll respond when I’ve stopped laughing and peeing my pants. We’re on five months with no word.

Still doesn't change the fact of what the court said in the Archer ruling. Towns will take as long as they want when people let them, other people make noise and get their permits quicker. It's all on how people approach it

 

[elorion]

I’m in for the RI quals if that’s still happening / room available. Need to brush up on the process also.

 

[Jared]

Still doesn't change the fact of what the court said in the Archer ruling. Towns will take as long as they want when people let them, other people make noise and get their permits quicker. It's all on how people approach it

The case was Archer v McGarry. Jim’s lawsuit was only about a licensing authority accepting an application and “If qualified” the permit shall be issued.

The 90 time limit was softly alluded to in Gadomski.

 

[GlockFan94]

Are RI Qualifications in Hopkinton still possible?

 

[Flint]

Has anyone received a non-resident from Portsmouth RI? It looks like the simplest I've seen. It doesn't even ask for passport photos.... I'm assuming I would need to show up to be photographed and pick it up?

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Are RI Qualifications in Hopkinton still possible?

Missed this when posted.

Yes.

 

[GL2020]

Has anyone received a non-resident from Portsmouth RI? It looks like the simplest I've seen. It doesn't even ask for passport photos.... I'm assuming I would need to show up to be photographed and pick it up?

I think that is the case no matter where you get it.
Appear in person, fingerprints, pic (I guess some ask, Foster "stand over there against the wall and don't smile")

 

[pinefd]

Has anyone received a non-resident from Portsmouth RI? It looks like the simplest I've seen. It doesn't even ask for passport photos.... I'm assuming I would need to show up to be photographed and pick it up?

Have you checked yet to see if Portsmouth is even accepting non-resident applications? A few years ago, I tried, and was told that even though we had owned a (2nd) home there for 20 years, that they were not accepting applications unless Portsmouth was your primary residence. I ended up getting mine from Cranston. But now that I'm up for renewal, and a full time resident of Portsmouth, I submitted my application here, and was told it will take approximately six months to process.


Frank

 

[Flint]

Have you checked yet to see if Portsmouth is even accepting non-resident applications? A few years ago, I tried, and was told that even though we had owned a (2nd) home there for 20 years, that they were not accepting applications unless Portsmouth was your primary residence. I ended up getting mine from Cranston. But now that I'm up for renewal, and a full time resident of Portsmouth, I submitted my application here, and was told it will take approximately six months to process.


Frank

That's a very good point. I *assumed* they all did, I have not asked. 6 months.... I'll skip them. Thank you.

 

[EMTDAD]

does the notary have to be a RI notary?

 

[pinefd]

does the notary have to be a RI notary?

No.

 

[MassPete]

Missed this when posted.

Yes.

My blood pressure has been low lately so I'm ready to start the RI Non-Res process. I don't have property in Rhode Island but pass through weekly on my way to Westport, MA. Just picked up a Sig .45 that I would use in the qualification. Ran into a guy at Four Seasons that said the process wasn't bad but I didn't write down the town he went through. Would definitely be in if you are planning something.

 

[Jared]

My blood pressure has been low lately so I'm ready to start the RI Non-Res process. I don't have property in Rhode Island but pass through weekly on my way to Westport, MA. Just picked up an Sig .45 that I would use in the qualification. Ran into a guy at Four Seasons that said the process wasn't bad but I didn't write down the town he went through. Would definitely be in if you are planning something.

Some people on here can be a pain.

People are terrified to tell others what town they went through.

Everyone bombarded Foster and it takes about 6 to 8 months to get a license now.

Cranston is a good Licensing authority. North Kingstown is good too. So is Coventry, Narragansett, East Greenwich and Exeter.

 

[Garys]

Once word gets out that a RI city or town is "good" to go through then EVERYONE wants to go through it. I think that happened in Johnston. Foster is good, but takes forever.

Each town seems to have a variation on how they implement their process. For example, Cranston requires re qualification with every renewal. They also require a lot of documents to be notarized that aren't required by law. All three of my reference letters had to be notarized. Cranston also doesn't notify you when the permit is about to expire.

Essentially, Cranston requires the same process with each renewal.

Hopefully, I won't be living up here by the time mine is due to be renewed.

Some people on here can be a pain.

People are terrified to tell others what town they went through.

Everyone bombarded Foster and it takes about 6 to 8 months to get a license now.

Cranston is a good Licensing authority. North Kingstown is good too. So is Coventry, Narragansett, East Greenwich and Exeter.

 

[EMTDAD]

nothing on the EG website that I can find about a CCWP. Since my inlaws live there, I have a valid reason on why to apply in that town.. not just.. picked one based on internet talk.

 

[Jared]

Once word gets out that a RI city or town is "good" to go through then EVERYONE wants to go through it. I think that happened in Johnston. Foster is good, but takes forever.

Each town seems to have a variation on how they implement their process. For example, Cranston requires re qualification with every renewal. They also require a lot of documents to be notarized that aren't required by law. All three of my reference letters had to be notarized. Cranston also doesn't notify you when the permit is about to expire.

Essentially, Cranston requires the same process with each renewal.

Hopefully, I won't be living up here by the time mine is due to be renewed.

Cranston doesn’t have the same process. They have a renewal application that is different from the original.

 

[Jared]

nothing on the EG website that I can find about a CCWP. Since my inlaws live there, I have a valid reason on why to apply in that town.. not just.. picked one based on internet talk.

You don’t need a reason to apply to any licensing authority. it’s just them whining with no legal basis.

The “why me” tantrum is not relevant. Smithfield used to do this 20 years ago.

 

[GL2020]

Once word gets out that a RI city or town is "good" to go through then EVERYONE wants to go through it. I think that happened in Johnston. Foster is good, but takes forever.

Each town seems to have a variation on how they implement their process. For example, Cranston requires re qualification with every renewal. They also require a lot of documents to be notarized that aren't required by law. All three of my reference letters had to be notarized. Cranston also doesn't notify you when the permit is about to expire.

Essentially, Cranston requires the same process with each renewal.

Hopefully, I won't be living up here by the time mine is due to be renewed.

Yup, and Foster loves the backlog. It's enough to keep one officer in OT for a very long time. He works like 4-5 hours evey Sunday just doing LTC's and makes some extra $$$. And from what I hear he's the only one (nice guy too). Things may change with a new chief, but who knows. The nice thing about Foster is it's minimal headache. Unless you're in a rush, it's basically a form, fee, notarized ID's, and a couple names for references (which they didn't call in my case) and wait.

I think most towns require a re-qualification with every renewal. I thought the shooting qualification was one and done, but not so. If there is a town that doesn't require a re-qualification I'd like to know. Be one thing to worry about.

Some (Woonsocket comes to mind) require qualification EVERY YEAR....tell me they aren't trying to discourage personal carry

 

[Jared]

Yup, and Foster loves the backlog. It's enough to keep one officer in OT for a very long time. He works like 4-5 hours evey Sunday just doing LTC's and makes some extra $$$. And from what I hear he's the only one (nice guy too). Things may change with a new chief, but who knows. The nice thing about Foster is it's minimal headache. Unless you're in a rush, it's basically a form, fee, notarized ID's, and a couple names for references (which they didn't call in my case) and wait.

I think most towns require a re-qualification with every renewal. I thought the shooting qualification was one and done, but not so. If there is a town that doesn't require a re-qualification I'd like to know. Be one thing to worry about.

Some (Woonsocket comes to mind) require qualification EVERY YEAR....tell me they aren't trying to discourage personal carry

Woonsocket is a pain. We had a guy years ago who said he wasn’t going to qualify annually. They said he had to. He responded that he won’t and he would show up in the lobby after a year and they can arrest him so he could sue them. They told him not to worry about the annual qualification

Their logic was that police qualify once a year and if they had to do it, then permit holders do too. The proper response they were once told was along the lines of “no problem, give me a LEOSA compliant Woonsocket Police ID and have a benefits specialist sit down with me to explain the medical and pension system.”

 

[Garys]

But they do require re qualification.

Cranston doesn’t have the same process. They have a renewal application that is different from the original.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

My blood pressure has been low lately so I'm ready to start the RI Non-Res process. I don't have property in Rhode Island but pass through weekly on my way to Westport, MA. Just picked up a Sig .45 that I would use in the qualification. Ran into a guy at Four Seasons that said the process wasn't bad but I didn't write down the town he went through. Would definitely be in if you are planning something.

I am not planning anything, but if someone wants to organize a group they can work out a date with me. My requirement is $20/head, minimum $100 to do the job, payable to Hopkinton Sportsmens Association. My time is donated for the benefit of the club and NES members.