kerryman71
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Definitely checking this out. Just the title with the words primer tube on it caused my hand to instinctively cramp up!
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I have thought about that. How do commercial guys that use dillon do it?To all the entrepreneurs out there,
Here is something that will make you money.
Come up with a way so that you don't even use primer fill tubes. You simply dump the primers into a vibratory feeder at the top of the primer tube on the press. Let it do its thing, replace the rod and continue.
THAT would be revolutionary.
Double Alpha also makes a device that is like a smaller, slower version of the Dillon. $200 and all you do is dump the primers in and in about 90 seconds it fills a tube. My thought is that this might be the "just right".
$200 vs $440 for the dillon if you set it up for large and small primers.
Thoughts?
Experience?
Oh and $20 off until the end of today with coupon code BF2020USA
DAA PRIMER-PRO Collator
US PATENT 10,718,599--------The PRIMER-PRO by Double-Alpha is a unique new approach to handling primers, and the solution reloaders have been waiting for!As any reloader knows well, manually filling primer tubes can be the most time-consuming and aggravating step in the whole reloadin...www.doublealpha.biz
Modeled up a primer wheel that works like the double alpha - will take 9 hours to print so I can see if my method for rejecting anvil down primers works.Double Alpha also makes a device that is like a smaller, slower version of the Dillon. $200 and all you do is dump the primers in and in about 90 seconds it fills a tube. My thought is that this might be the "just right".
$200 vs $440 for the dillon if you set it up for large and small primers.
Thoughts?
Experience?
Oh and $20 off until the end of today with coupon code BF2020USA
DAA PRIMER-PRO Collator
US PATENT 10,718,599--------The PRIMER-PRO by Double-Alpha is a unique new approach to handling primers, and the solution reloaders have been waiting for!As any reloader knows well, manually filling primer tubes can be the most time-consuming and aggravating step in the whole reloadin...www.doublealpha.biz
Modeled up a primer wheel that works like the double alpha - will take 9 hours to print so I can see if my method for rejecting anvil down primers works.
The Dillon works. Buy once, cry once. Plus, check out the resale value of Dillon stuff on ebay. I don't think of it as spending $440. It's more like renting it for $50 until I decide to sell it.Double Alpha also makes a device that is like a smaller, slower version of the Dillon. $200 and all you do is dump the primers in and in about 90 seconds it fills a tube. My thought is that this might be the "just right".
$200 vs $440 for the dillon if you set it up for large and small primers.
Thoughts?
Experience?
Oh and $20 off until the end of today with coupon code BF2020USA
DAA PRIMER-PRO Collator
US PATENT 10,718,599--------The PRIMER-PRO by Double-Alpha is a unique new approach to handling primers, and the solution reloaders have been waiting for!As any reloader knows well, manually filling primer tubes can be the most time-consuming and aggravating step in the whole reloadin...www.doublealpha.biz
This.The Dillon works. Buy once, cry once. Plus, check out the resale value of Dillon stuff on ebay. I don't think of it as spending $440. It's more like renting it for $50 until I decide to sell it.
The Dillon works. Buy once, cry once. Plus, check out the resale value of Dillon stuff on ebay. I don't think of it as spending $440. It's more like renting it for $50 until I decide to sell it.
Quick render and a step file to look at in 3d
Base is set up to use a stepper from an old inkjet printer simply because that's what I had in the junk bin.
Base is printing right now - will print the wheel tonight to tomorrow I should be able to test it out
I don't have a Dillon - major skinflint - so development would be a little harderClearly you are smarter than me. I'd suggest that you focus on something that you can affix to the top of a dillon primer magazine. Thus eliminating the need to even fill primer tubes.
If yiou could come up with something like that that works, yo would be my hero.
The rod pushes on the primers with only the force of gravity, and the rod is plastic, so it doesn’t push hard.I don't have a Dillon - major skinflint - so development would be a little harder
Doesn't Dillon have a rod the pushes on the primers?
Let me work out the basics first - making it mount to the press shouldn't be a big issue (assuming the primer tube doesn't move as the press cycles).The rod pushes on the primers with only the force of gravity, and the rod is plastic, so it doesn’t push hard.
If you get that figured out, make 10,000 of them before you announce to the world and the Chicoms steal your IP. You’ll sell out the first batch in no time And make a killing!Let me work out the basics first - making it mount to the press shouldn't be a big issue (assuming the primer tube doesn't move as the press cycles).
I'm assuming that you would want an automatic feed setup if press mounted - dump 300-400 primers and the feeder fills the tube until an optical sensor breaks.
That is basically how auto primers work in some of the commercial videos I saw.Clearly you are smarter than me. I'd suggest that you focus on something that you can affix to the top of a dillon primer magazine. Thus eliminating the need to even fill primer tubes.
If yiou could come up with something like that that works, yo would be my hero.
Nkce, you will design the entire thing. I thought you were just trying to build an adapterWhat I'm doing is too close to double alpha to market without running into patent issues (even if my mods create a probably novel design I don't want the fight)
Looked at the Dillon primer system - Entirely possible to add an automated primer feed by modifying the feed assembly. But that's $100 investment to start the design.
Would need to shorten the outer shield tube, index the primer tube to the outer tube, and add two optical sensors (low primer warning and primer feed trigger). Mounting a feed on top of the modified tube is simple after all that...
Whoa whoa whoa, plenty of us 650 users loading for years without a hitch...where’s the love?That is basically how auto primers work in some of the commercial videos I saw.
Dillon has plenty if metal for attachment points. You just mount it on top and primers drop straight into the primer tube in the machine.
I am sure with a little but of playing and bending some tube, you can probably have it on the side.
If you ever market anything, I wouldn't market it for the 650. Imagine the primers blowing up and somehow making it to the top with the stored primers. People never want to be responsible for their own actions. When I blew up my revolver I had people message me and tell me to force MR to pay for it, when it was 100% my fault. (I didn't ask them to pay for anything).
I am not hating on the 650 users. I'm just looking at it from a business point of view. All you need is one dude to blow it up but instead of 100 primers have 500 go off.Whoa whoa whoa, plenty of us 650 users loading for years without a hitch...where’s the love?