Small/Large Pistol Primer Price

[sig shooter]

Hi all,

Friend of mine gave me a Lee progressive press for 45 acp. What is considered a non-ass rapish price for small/Large pistol primers?

 

[BONESTOCK]

Hi all,

Friend of mine gave me a Lee progressive press for 45 acp. What is considered a non-ass rapish price for small/Large pistol primers?

I am a bit confused, .45 acp is most commonly loaded using large pistol primers and I have only seen the old Win Clean ammo use a small primer for .45 acp.

 

[BONESTOCK]

I am a bit confused, .45 acp is most commonly loaded using large pistol primers and I have only seen the old Win Clean ammo use a small primer for .45 acp.

$ 80.00 per 1K is a steal right now.

Most the time it's running $100 plus per 1K

 

[RankAmateur]

You're probably going to hear "anything more than 2¢ is rape". In today's market, you will probably be paying something like 8-9¢, and small vs large shouldn't make much difference in price, but will affect availability.

EDIT: @BONESTOCK beat me to the reply. Also, keep in mind that on-line dealers will likely charge both a shipping and hazmat fee. So an advertised $85/1000 will be closer to $110/1000. It isn't uncommon to see primers advertised on-line for $120 - $160/1000 not including the shipping/hazmat! I hate to say it, but if you can find primers at less than 10¢ per (all in), you might want to do some stocking, even at those terrible prices. It's always possible that prices will come down, but folks have been predicting that for 3 years now, and the market has settled around the 9¢ mark. Given inflation and demand, it's also possible the prices will continue to rise to new rape levels...

 

[ddeck]

I am a bit confused, .45 acp is most commonly loaded using large pistol primers and I have only seen the old Win Clean ammo use a small primer for .45 acp.

Blazer and some Federals are now small primer pockets. I’d say it’s about 90/10 large primer to small primer at the range.

 

[DW357]

Just over 7 cents shipped for CCI SPP is the current “best price”.
LPP are 9-10 cents

 

[DW357]

Anyone know where to get Unicorn Droppings (primers) for non ass rape pricing?

And with the $30 hazmat on top of that. Ridiculous. Mhmm

www.northeastshooters.com

 

[sig shooter]

You're probably going to hear "anything more than 2¢ is rape". In today's market, you will probably be paying something like 8-9¢, and small vs large shouldn't make much difference in price, but will affect availability.

EDIT: @BONESTOCK beat me to the reply. Also, keep in mind that on-line dealers will likely charge both a shipping and hazmat fee. So an advertised $85/1000 will be closer to $110/1000. It isn't uncommon to see primers advertised on-line for $120 - $160/1000 not including the shipping/hazmat! I hate to say it, but if you can find primers at less than 10¢ per (all in), you might want to do some stocking, even at those terrible prices. It's always possible that prices will come down, but folks have been predicting that for 3 years now, and the market has settled around the 9¢ mark. Given inflation and demand, it's also possible the prices will continue to rise to new rape levels...

I’ve seen pre- primed brass online. The big difference is they don’t charge hazmat fees for the pre-primed brass. Doesn’t make a ton of sense.

 

[walter62]

why are you expecting any law(s) concerning guns, ammo, shipping of said items, etc etc to make any sense?

 

[gerrycaruso]

45 acp brass comes in both large and small which I find to be a pain in the ass but if you haven't started collecting it yet, go with small. Small primer brass is more common lately and small primers are cheaper and easier to find than large.

 

[Uzi2]

45 acp brass comes in both large and small which I find to be a pain in the ass but if you haven't started collecting it yet, go with small. Small primer brass is more common lately and small primers are cheaper and easier to find than large.

You can also use small rifle primers if desired or necessary with the small primed brass.

I used small rifle primers exclusively for many years. Didn't even have any small pistol primers.

 

[Uzi2]

I’ve seen pre- primed brass online. The big difference is they don’t charge hazmat fees for the pre-primed brass. Doesn’t make a ton of sense.

It does make sense, and there's been extensive research and testing with packaging and transportation to arrive at that conclusion.

There's no hazmat fees with pre primed brass because there's almost 0 hazard involved in shipping them.

Companies have been shipping bulk, loose packed loaded ammo in a plastic bags in cardboard boxes, or loose in ammo cans forever. It's ORM-D (other regulated materials class D ) on the hazards scale......same as a bottle of rubbing alcohol, a can of hair spray or spraypaint, or many other commonly used household items, even some cosmetics and medications.

Primers involve a hazmat fee because of the nature of the product (its potential for detonation en mass) and it not being inserted into a brass casing which lessens its hazard exponentially to almost zero.

 

[cookiecutter]

I’ve seen pre- primed brass online. The big difference is they don’t charge hazmat fees for the pre-primed brass. Doesn’t make a ton of sense.

Actually, I can see the logic ... with just primers, you have a very high density of power, so there is more likelihood of a bulk explosion. With primed brass, every primer has its own little blast chamber where the gases can cool to safer levels and not set off a chain reaction. The way the ship primers these days, however, seems like a chain reaction is already a very remote event.

 

[Uzi2]

Actually, I can see the logic ... with just primers, you have a very high density of power, so there is more likelihood of a bulk explosion. With primed brass, every primer has its own little blast chamber where the gases can cool to safer levels and not set off a chain reaction. The way the ship primers these days, however, seems like a chain reaction is already a very remote event.

Yes, that's because the packaging has been designed and tested to arrive at minimal hazard, but there is still some potential, especially if involved in a fire.

 

[meh]

Doesn’t make a ton of sense.

Minimal risk of sympathetic ignition with the primers installed in brass cases.