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Massachusetts Politicians State of Mind

I can't even scream "UNBELIEVABLE!!!". I hate lying.

Dear Madame Attorney General:

F*** you, you arrogant, statist bitch!

F*** you and every other fascist scumbag down in Massachusetts masquerading as faithful servants of the public trust, whilst bending over to make life as comfortable as possible for the most reprehensible breed of subhuman filth walking our streets.

I pray that some day, should you find yourself in need of some "self-help", you have the wherewithal to follow your own authoritarian dogma, and surrender yourself to some piece of garbage, lowlife predator looking to treat you like a slab of beef.

Sincerely,

Go f*** yourself.

Now, ask me how I really feel.
 
Oh, regarding the other comment about saying something in a public forum,

If you don't like it here, leave the forum. Your either with us or not.

JimB

I'm not the guy who said it. I told that guy to take a hike.
 
I can only guess at what you're implying with the "against the wall" comment, but I find it extremely disturbing.

No wonder pro-gun people get a bad rap with comments like this in public forums. I'm ashamed to be associated with this kind of sentiment, and would like to surrender my membership to NES if this isn't moderated.

I have no interest in paying to belong to a community that regards this as an ok thing to say on a public message board.

Now that's just funny no matter how you look at it. The hoe should know how lawful tax paying citizens feel about socialist traitors like here and the rest of her low life, scum sucking, posse.

I only hope your demostrate the same passion while they hammer more gun laws and taxes up your ass! The great thing about this forum is you get to choose not only what to read but who to ignore if you want.
 
Just to keep the facts straight the father's sister posted a comment on my blog regarding this incident.

The father wasn't arrested, he was just given a summons. Same with the illegal alien sexual predator.

Anyone wanna bet on whether or not the illegal shows up for court?
 
The sad part that Martha couldn't even begin to fathom, is that if she were getting sexually assaulted and an NES member were a witness to it, 98% of us would take out the BG for her.

She just doesn't get it. [sad]
 
Last week MA AG Martha Coakley was on WTKK with Jim Brody. They were discussing the father who protected his young son from the sexual predator. Martha went on to say the the police should have been called and "We really discourage people from self help"
If that doesn't sum up the political thinking in this state, nothing does.
How shameful.
Don't hold your breath on the AG ever taking away the firearm "consumer protections". And this is a good look at the next Gov of Massachusetts.
Here's a link to the audio with commentary from Jay Severin:
http://wtkk.everyzing.com/viewMedia...-pod_wtkk-ep&q="attorney+general"&match=QUERY

Of course it is easy to discourage people from self-help while having a lot more protection than an average person. I just hope at some point people like her will actually need this self-help.
 
The sad part that Martha couldn't even begin to fathom, is that if she were getting sexually assaulted and an NES member were a witness to it, 98% of us would take out the BG for her.

She just doesn't get it. [sad]

She gets it. She just knows she'll never be sexually assaulted[smile]
 
The sad part that Martha couldn't even begin to fathom, is that if she were getting sexually assaulted and an NES member were a witness to it, 98% of us would take out the BG for her.

She just doesn't get it. [sad]

Put this in the proper perspective . . .

What do you think SHE'd do if it were her Son/Daughter that she saw being molested and nobody else was around to intervene?

Somehow I think that a Mother's (or Father's) instinct would kick in and most would do something similar to what this gentleman did. I'm willing to bet on it (but she'd probably refuse to admit it).
 
I said it before in another thread and it worth it here too...

These people like our AG lady have fallen for the PC stuff that has overan the U.K. To these people, there is no difference between violence for aggressive purposes and violence for defensive purposes - it's all bad in their eyes. How and what will it take to fix this attitude? I don't know how except to seperate yourself from these types of people. Problem here in the U.S. will be eventually running out of space to go to...

Joe R.
 
How and what will it take to fix this attitude?

Short answer: you don't.

History shows that all of the great civilizations of the world are single-period phenomena: they rise, peak and fall, and the fall is irreversible.

Best guess is that they are all victims of the very success that enabled them to rise in the first place. The society becomes lazy, consumptive, hedonistic, and unrealistic, as a result of which they begin an irreversible slide on account of their own weight.

This is where the United States was thought to be in the 20s and 30s. Then the combined effects of the Depression and WW2 caused us to pull together, as few (if any) declining societies ever had. Post-war history, though, shows this to be a mere perturbation, not an exception to the historical precedent.

Sic transit gloria.
 
I heard Jay’s show that day and like others I found Martha Coakley’s comments extremely disturbing. As citizens all that we have is “self help”. It is not the mandate of the police to protect the individual citizen and even if it were it would be a physical impossibility. When we or our loved ones become (potential)victims we are almost always alone, that is, not accompanied by a LEO. That is just the way that it is and I accept that. People rarely get raped, killed, assaulted or robbed in the presence of a LEO. So since Ms. Coakley has no intention of actually directly protecting me or my loved ones it is incredibly hypocritical to then say “We really discourage people from self help".

However, what I find even worse is her inability to do the job that she is charged with. She did not even know about the case and certainly sounded like she could care less. I have come to believe that at the administrative level people like Ms. Coakley just do not want any messy situations. Better that the 4 year old and his father be total and complete victims then to have the “messiness” of “self help”. The bureaucrats and administrators would just like us to completely lay down and stop gumming up the works. They want us to learn to be good lamb victims so that they can then demonstrate appropriate outrage, get a few good sound bites in about protecting the children, let a little time pass and then let some judge release the dirt bag perpetrator. No fuss, no mess. We are all just supposed to play our part. Me thinks the doo doo is truly rising in this state!

Good post Goose!
 
This whole incident got me to thinking and I rememberd something that I saw as a kid. This was in the late to mid 50's, I do not remember exactly. I was watching a litlle league ballgame and there was a guy with his wife and young kids standing nearby also watching. Another fellow kept cursing out loud. Finally the guy with the wife and kids told him (not asked him) to watch his language. When the guy cursed back at him he decked the guy. A few minutes later a cop showed, listened to the stories and escorted the guy who had been cursing (and got punched) off the premises with the admonition that this was a family environment and no place for bad language. A diiferent world. Today it is evidently OK to diddle a little kid and dad should just stand by. This is not progress.
 
Sounds like pretty much the same sentiments I was trying to express - at least I am not the only one who feels this way.

After wondering, watching, researching, and trying to make sense of this liberal crap for years I have to a most unsavory conclusion:

f*** it.

If the liberals want to drive society into the ground - let them. I don't think they know what they are in for. They have a vague notion that the govt. will save them. It won't. Tyrannical governments always fail. And ours is closer to failure than most people think (in my opinion). When the shit hits the fan the people who are prepared will survive will survive - and the people who thought the govt. would save them are going to find themselves sorely disappointed. I do not believe that the majority of people are as liberal as the left would have you believe. Most people just want to take care of their own business and be left alone. It is a small majority of left leaning people in this country who do all the whining and make a lot of noise - and get themselves into office. Like a virus that starts to affect the host's health - they need to have the white blood cells loosed on them. If the body thinks it is healthy - nothing happens. It's only when the disease starts to threaten the host that measures are taken. When the SHTF I think libtards will find themselves in deep doo doo as their failures become more and more evident.

I find the use of the label 'liberal' not an accurate one. I am pretty liberal and yet in no
way do I find myself aligned with the socialists one iota. Liberals and Conservatives are
good people, Socialists are bad people. Martha Coakley is no liberal! If she were, your
liberties would be in good hands. Semantics it might be, but neither liberals and
conservatives (there are none of these in Mass. government that I know of) are your
enemy as an ideology. On the other hand, the Socialists are your deadly enemy and
Martha Coakley is as Socialist as it gets and represents the true political mainstream in
Massachusetts, as does Patrick.
 
This whole incident got me to thinking and I rememberd something that I saw as a kid. This was in the late to mid 50's, I do not remember exactly. I was watching a litlle league ballgame and there was a guy with his wife and young kids standing nearby also watching. Another fellow kept cursing out loud. Finally the guy with the wife and kids told him (not asked him) to watch his language. When the guy cursed back at him he decked the guy. A few minutes later a cop showed, listened to the stories and escorted the guy who had been cursing (and got punched) off the premises with the admonition that this was a family environment and no place for bad language. A diiferent world. Today it is evidently OK to diddle a little kid and dad should just stand by. This is not progress.

Amen. +1
 
The sad part that Martha couldn't even begin to fathom, is that if she were getting sexually assaulted and an NES member were a witness to it, 98% of us would take out the BG for her.

She just doesn't get it. [sad]

Not if I knew it was her.
 
I find the use of the label 'liberal' not an accurate one. I am pretty liberal and yet in no
way do I find myself aligned with the socialists one iota. Liberals and Conservatives are
good people, Socialists are bad people. Martha Coakley is no liberal! If she were, your
liberties would be in good hands. Semantics it might be, but neither liberals and
conservatives (there are none of these in Mass. government that I know of) are your
enemy as an ideology. On the other hand, the Socialists are your deadly enemy and
Martha Coakley is as Socialist as it gets and represents the true political mainstream in
Massachusetts, as does Patrick.

For better or worse, the terms "liberal" and "conservative have been twisted and co-opted to the point of uselessness. I understand what you're saying and suspect I might agree with you on a lot of issues but it's worth trying to find a new word for your positions.
 
For better or worse, the terms "liberal" and "conservative have been twisted and co-opted to the point of uselessness. I understand what you're saying and suspect I might agree with you on a lot of issues but it's worth trying to find a new word for your positions.

+1 Sir.

I bristle at the idea of being labeled either Conservative or Liberal as they've become useless descriptors; they're simply pejorative at this point.

Example:

I am firmly pro-choice. I believe the government should GTFO my body, your body and every other American's body. I support an individual's right to marry their pet rock if that's what appeals to them. I am adamantly against all drug laws, prostitution laws or any laws that involve victim less crimes. Finally, I support much of the environmental legislation on the books.

So, clearly I'm a liberal right?

But wait,

I am firmly against almost every facet of gun control. I believe the criteria should be 18 years old, American Citizen, with no violent criminal past. That's it. I also support tightening immigration laws, I oppose amnesty, "in-state tuition deals" and other contradictory immigration policies. I believe the free market is generally the best engine for economic growth and I want to see greater enforcement of existing laws.

So, clearly I am a conservative right?

Well, perhaps I'm a libertarian...

Except for the problematic environmental issue. You see, Libertarianism is all about personal responsibility. That's respectable, but corporations are not people. Not legally, not ethically and not actually. Therefore, expecting a corporation to prioritize the environment (when it conflicts with profit) is illogical as a corporation, by design, is structured only to achieve profit. No more, no less. Anyone who tells you different is either a misguided democrat, ignorant, a liar, or all three.

So...I guess I'm not a libertarian either...

I'm just a Patriot who despises flimsy labels. What are you?

R. Duke
 
+1 Sir.

I bristle at the idea of being labeled either Conservative or Liberal as they've become useless descriptors; they're simply pejorative at this point.

Example:

I am firmly pro-choice. I believe the government should GTFO my body, your body and every other American's body. I support an individual's right to marry their pet rock if that's what appeals to them. I am adamantly against all drug laws, prostitution laws or any laws that involve victim less crimes. Finally, I support much of the environmental legislation on the books.

So, clearly I'm a liberal right?

But wait,

I am firmly against almost every facet of gun control. I believe the criteria should be 18 years old, American Citizen, with no violent criminal past. That's it. I also support tightening immigration laws, I oppose amnesty, "in-state tuition deals" and other contradictory immigration policies. I believe the free market is generally the best engine for economic growth and I want to see greater enforcement of existing laws.

So, clearly I am a conservative right?

Well, perhaps I'm a libertarian...

Except for the problematic environmental issue. You see, Libertarianism is all about personal responsibility. That's respectable, but corporations are not people. Not legally, not ethically and not actually. Therefore, expecting a corporation to prioritize the environment (when it conflicts with profit) is illogical as a corporation, by design, is structured only to achieve profit. No more, no less. Anyone who tells you different is either a misguided democrat, ignorant, a liar, or all three.

So...I guess I'm not a libertarian either...

I'm just a Patriot who despises flimsy labels. What are you?

R. Duke

*bows*

That about sums it up.
 
I'm amused that Raoul and I are butting heads, yet line up almost exactly in our views of politics and policy.

I wasn't going to post again on this thread because I didn't want to derail it further, but I thought I should at least have the opportunity to defend my post. Since I can't possibly make any more enemies than I just have, why not just go for it?

First, I regret that I stated my case so strongly. Raoul's comment rubbed me the wrong way. I don't mind eating a little crow in coming off as a humorless prude (two things which I'm not in person), but my comment still stands.

I've noticed that NES is frequently on the top of the list of sites after a firearm related query via Google. This tells me that NES gets a lot of traffic. As someone who has a foot in both worlds of the gun debate (I have close friends who are anti and pro gun, and often feel like the guy in my avatar), you can trust me when I say that comments like Raoul's are not doing us any favors as a marginalized group in this state. It's really a double whammy: they affirm all the stereotypes of gun owners, while adding no actual content to the debate. It's graffiti on the bathroom wall, and more noise that people have to wade through to get to actual content.

I feel like I see these kinds of comments here more and more, and the only thing they do in my estimation is to add just one more little drop of poison to an already too-small well.

It's obvious judging from the heat I've gotten for my objection to Raoul's comment that I'm alone in thinking such comments paint this community in a bad light. My expectations were too high and that's life. Whether or not I stick around or take my toys and go home, I hope my post will at least be a heads-up that people outside our community are watching us (especially after the Heller decision), and we can't afford to give them more reasons to despise us than we already have.

My apologies for derailing the thread again. I hate to interrupt a discussion on the absurd policies of the AG.
 
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I wonder whats sadder, that you would cower in the face of danger or that you would actually not interfere and follow Coakleys decree.

Sorry Ms. Clitoris, I do not defend those who seek to render the good citizens and victims of crime in MA defenseless. Suit yourself.
 
Martha Coakley would have us defer our safety and security to local and state law enforcement. The LEO community, through the court system, regularly and unambiguously reiterates it's lack of "Affirmative Duty" to follow through with this vital responsibility. There are many practical reasons for this, not the least is the ratio of Police to Citizenry. Yet Ms. Coakley, having striped us of the ability (and responsibility) to defend ourselves efficiently, blithely passing the responsibility for our safety down the line till it gets to the end where, like a bad pass, it's dropped and we pay the price.

She knows what she's doing and what she's doing is telling you that your life, and the lives of your loved ones, are worth less than her policy.

She's telling you that you shouldn't take care of yourself, thus encouraging one of the most scurrilous and reprehensible forms of weakness amongst her constituency.

There are myriad politicians whom I disagree with on issues, yet I have no reason to hate them personally. Ms Coakley, on the other hand, through her vile mantra of learned helplessness and her daily assaults on the freedoms that make me proud to be American, has personally insulted and endangered the people I care about. Ergo, she's unfit to lead in my opinion.

There, is that better than simply saying that she's a pile of dogshit?
 
Martha Coakley would have us defer our safety and security to local and state law enforcement. The LEO community, through the court system, regularly and unambiguously reiterates it's lack of "Affirmative Duty" to follow through with this vital responsibility. There are many practical reasons for this, not the least is the ratio of Police to Citizenry. Yet Ms. Coakley, having striped us of the ability (and responsibility) to defend ourselves efficiently, blithely passing the responsibility for our safety down the line till it gets to the end where, like a bad pass, it's dropped and we pay the price.

She knows what she's doing and what she's doing is telling you that your life, and the lives of your loved ones, are worth less than her policy.

She's telling you that you shouldn't take care of yourself, thus encouraging one of the most scurrilous and reprehensible forms of weakness amongst her constituency.

There are myriad politicians whom I disagree with on issues, yet I have no reason to hate them personally. Ms Coakley, on the other hand, through her vile mantra of learned helplessness and her daily assaults on the freedoms that make me proud to be American, has personally insulted and endangered the people I care about. Ergo, she's unfit to lead in my opinion.

There, is that better than simply saying that she's a pile of dogshit?

+1 MY thoughts exactly better articulated that I could have done.
 
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