Grendizer138
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You don’t need a lawyer, you need new roommates. GTFO.
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Landlord and roommates threatening to kick me out for pursuing an LTC, looking for lawyer
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Marty McFly
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Agree. Usually people in roomate situations aren't wealthy enough to waste money to gain nothing
Palladin
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let's clarify that.....the morons you live with are pussies!!!
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You've learned a life lesson about when to STFU. Don't plan on bringing any guns there. Walk away without tying up your money and time into this no win situation. Ride out your lease then surround yourself with better people.
pastera
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OP - learn to shut up about your business.
I doubt a 'no guns' clause would be struck down by Massachusetts courts but if there isn't one already then getting you out is going to be hard for the landlord.
However for your roommates it's one 'I don't feel safe' call away from you receiving a red flag prohibition and being barred from entering the apartment you will still be required bu the lease to pay for.
Bringing up the issue with your roommates was a turn onto a one way street - you can only move out even if you don't pursue a license.
If you give in, you have lost all power and respect. If you don't they will involve the man in your life in ways that will crush you.
Start looking for other arrangements.
I doubt a 'no guns' clause would be struck down by Massachusetts courts but if there isn't one already then getting you out is going to be hard for the landlord.
However for your roommates it's one 'I don't feel safe' call away from you receiving a red flag prohibition and being barred from entering the apartment you will still be required bu the lease to pay for.
Bringing up the issue with your roommates was a turn onto a one way street - you can only move out even if you don't pursue a license.
If you give in, you have lost all power and respect. If you don't they will involve the man in your life in ways that will crush you.
Start looking for other arrangements.
Grendizer138
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If HD4420 passes OP gonna be the first guy red-flagged by a landlord for guns he doesn’t even own yet.
TLTR However this is what I want to respond to in the first ~20 posts.
Personally, I don't go to places that I'm not wanted. No need to look for trouble. I think this is good advice.
Precisely! MA red flag law could have any of them conjuring up a threatening situation and you could get arrested and gun/LTC confiscated. Not worth fighting and living under these circumstances.
Exactly right!
See my comment above.
Personally, I don't go to places that I'm not wanted. No need to look for trouble. I think this is good advice.
richc
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From a few years ago...
freebeacon.com
Landlord Tells Harvard Grad Student to Move Out Over Legally Owned Guns
A Massachusetts landlord told a Harvard University graduate student that he wanted her to move out of her apartment because her legally owned firearms
freebeacon.com
Palladin
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From a few years ago...
Landlord Tells Harvard Grad Student to Move Out Over Legally Owned Guns
A Massachusetts landlord told a Harvard University graduate student that he wanted her to move out of her apartment because her legally owned firearms
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After graduating Harvard Grad school she marries THIS guy !!!!
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Regretably true. In some towns "He never threatened me, has never shown any tendency towards violence, but I do not feel safe with him having a gun" is enough for LTC revocation.
As to the lease, who signed it? If multiple, am I correct in assuming it joint and several?
Buck F
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Yup, OP now has to worry about being red flagged since roommates can do that and the courts will side with them.
Lesson learned: Move out & get better roommates, keep your mouth shut about gun ownership
Given how the story just ends after the initial coverage, likely safe to assume Leyla Pirnie's law talking guy negotiated a nice payout for her to leave quietly
Ah yes, I’m guessing “treble damages” which means if you make a minor procedural or accounting error, don’t pay your tenant the $0.24 they accrued in interest, kept it in a non-escrow bank account (even if you’ve returned it in full!!)? Now you owe your tenant 3x their security deposit plus costs in punitive damages. Dumbest shit ever that many many landlords know nothing about.
As both a gun owner and landlord in MA, deep down I must have strong hatred for myself.
chris_1001
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Tell them we are all getting kicked out because you narced! Take them out the door with you.
And remind them not to flush their manpons down the toilet.
Seriously, don’t give them a reason to red flag you and learn to STFU in the future
We have a saying here. “Concealed mean’s CONCEALED”.
ETA: Awaiting parody thread…
And remind them not to flush their manpons down the toilet.
Seriously, don’t give them a reason to red flag you and learn to STFU in the future
We have a saying here. “Concealed mean’s CONCEALED”.
ETA: Awaiting parody thread…
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An eviction is not "I am throwing you out", but a court order with a mandated eviction date at which point a constable or sheriff from the civil process division (yes Len, I know constables are technically LEs) shows up with the eviction order and a state certified eviction mover. pre-paid by the landlord, to haul your ass out of the place. Self help; shutting off utilities or changing locks are all illegal and puts you, the tenant, in the role of "crime victim".
And in eviction court, always ask for more time.
Consider NOT getting an LTC, getting a locked safe to store your spare change, and declining any requests for search without a warrant. Now, in court its "I don't have an LTC, never had one, and do not possess directly or constructively any firearms, rifles or shotguns. Can't revoke your LTC - you don't have one. No laws broken. No lease violations. Get the LTC after the battle is over, and do NOT admit you are not getting an LTC to anyone except the court in a hearing.
And, if you do move out, be sure to negotiate a written release from all lease obligations including those to pay your roommates share if you are easier to extract if from you than them (yes, it's almost certainly in the lease - just look for the term "joint and several")
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And in eviction court, always ask for more time.
Consider NOT getting an LTC, getting a locked safe to store your spare change, and declining any requests for search without a warrant. Now, in court its "I don't have an LTC, never had one, and do not possess directly or constructively any firearms, rifles or shotguns. Can't revoke your LTC - you don't have one. No laws broken. No lease violations. Get the LTC after the battle is over, and do NOT admit you are not getting an LTC to anyone except the court in a hearing.
And, if you do move out, be sure to negotiate a written release from all lease obligations including those to pay your roommates share if you are easier to extract if from you than them (yes, it's almost certainly in the lease - just look for the term "joint and several")
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Rob, LEOs (police) are prohibited by MGL from serving civil process (ROs being the exception, or nobody cares). Only constables and deputy sheriffs in the civil process division can serve them.
Self-help doesn't make him "crime victim" but rather "criminal"!
Self-help doesn't make him "crime victim" but rather "criminal"!
Asaltweapon
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Is it OK to leave an upper decker and bang the landlords wife.
mothybee
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AS many have stated, get some real friends, look for another place, depending on your town your lease will probably be up by the time you get the LTC. If all else fails tell them your going for transgender surgery, can't touch ya.
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I was responding to someone in the role of tenant, hence the term "crime victim".
Thanks for the corrections - post updated.
Garys
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LenS knows for sure, but I've heard that it takes at least 18 months to evict someone.
That said, as Derek noted, these are not friends.
That said, as Derek noted, these are not friends.
hpm
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Was that her green card paperwork?
The norm is 6 months minimum and if during the Winter or with small children, it is usually extended.
It is also tough to find a constable to physically evict someone living in a group situation. I refused one of those even though I knew the homeowner for many years.
The constable is responsible to remove all of the evicted person's possessions WITHOUT touching anyone else's possessions. All it takes is one person to claim that you left something behind or took another person's item and the constable is looking at a lawsuit. No thank you!
Living with those sort of roommates is going to be very stressful.
Ask the land lord to nullify your portion of the lease and return your deposit - and say you'll be happy to move out.
Get your own place.
Ask the land lord to nullify your portion of the lease and return your deposit - and say you'll be happy to move out.
Get your own place.
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