Gun Registration in Germany Pre WWII, National Rifleman 2001

[Richland]

A good article...

New research into Adolf Hitler's use of firearms registration lists to confiscate guns and the execution of their owners teaches a forceful lesson -- one that reveals why the American people and Congress have rejected registering honest firearm owners.

Registration: The Nazi Paradigm - by Stephen P. Halbrook

 

[cekim]

It is sad that this blatant reality is becoming lost in the living memory of the public.

That it now has to be brought up as a "shocking, little known” aspect of history is rather terrifying in its indication of how little we have learned from such recent and horrible history.

 

[Melkiper]

But that was in a different country, so many years ago! Like that could ever happen here....


Sad that most people first reaction would be around that line of thought

 

[cekim]

But that was in a different country, so many years ago! Like that could ever happen here....


Sad that most people first reaction would be around that line of thought

Even sadder that "never again" is quickly morphing into "it is no longer possible" even over there.

 

[Melkiper]

Even sadder that "never again" is quickly morphing into "it is no longer possible" even over there.

Yup, like the world has magicly gotten better over the past 70 years. Unfortunately that's what happens to people when they just become sheep who don't have a single thought of their own.

 

[Marcus5aurelius]

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[calsdad]

A good article...

New research into Adolf Hitler's use of firearms registration lists to confiscate guns and the execution of their owners teaches a forceful lesson -- one that reveals why the American people and Congress have rejected registering honest firearm owners.

Registration: The Nazi Paradigm - by Stephen P. Halbrook

Great article. Thanks for posting. Stephan Halbrook has done some great research over the years on gun laws. I haven't seen his name tossed around much lately - so it's great to bring this information back into the debate that is raging right now about gun ownership.

I don't remember where I read it - because it was years ago - but one of the things I remembered seeing mentioned was that gun control in Europe - especially among the Germans - really took off after WW1. One of the reasons they gave was that the German Army had crossed into Belgium during WW1 to avoid passing thru France I guess. When they did that - they basically were under constant fire from Belgium citizens taking shots at them - with their civilian owned firearms. Apparently the experience was bad enough that it became something they remembered later - and it helped to push the logic of civilian disarmament in Germany.

 

[calsdad]

Another great reference in that article - this time to the Swiss defiance of Hitler:

A Swiss manual on armed resistance stated with such experiences in mind:

Should you be so trusting and turn over your weapons you will be put on a "black list" in spite of everything. The enemy will always need hostages or forced laborers later on (read: "work slaves") and will gladly make use of the "black lists." You see once again that you cannot escape his net and had better die fighting. After the deadline, raids coupled with house searches and street checks will be conducted.

The Swiss basically adopted a "no surrender" policy during the war. The High Command basically issued orders to the Swiss people that said " if we tell you to surrender - don't believe us"

 

[josh2600]

Yup, like the world has magicly gotten better over the past 70 years. Unfortunately that's what happens to people when they just become sheep who don't have a single thought of their own.

But we have a "nice" government now, didn't you hear? It turned nice sometime in the 80's.

 

[MaverickNH]

GUN CONTROL IN THE THIRD REICH: DISARMING JEWS AND “ENEMIES OF THE STATE”
Stephen P. Halbrook
The Independent Institute, $27.95, 246 pages

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[EXCERPT] "“Gun control caused the Holocaust.” That’s an argument, rather unhelpfully phrased, that American gun-rights supporters have been making for decades.

There’s no way to prove it. In fact, most of the time it’s not even clear what alternate history is being suggested. Are we talking about a world in which the Nazis behaved exactly the way they did, but inexplicably allowed their victims to remain armed? A world in which, as the Nazis came to power, Germany already had a widespread and passionate gun culture like America’s?

Unfortunately, this bold assertion obscures very serious questions about the role disarmament can play in oppression. And at last we have the historical information we need to investigate those questions, in the form of Second Amendment lawyer Stephen P. Halbrook’s “Gun Control in the Third Reich.” It is the most extensive history to date of Nazi Germany’s policies on firearms, drawing largely on original documents."

 

[not new guy]

And all in the name of ideological pursuits. This is what happens when a group decides that they need to force their views on others and reach some unilaterally determined goal by any means necessary.

 

[CTpatriot]

Even sadder that "never again" is quickly morphing into "it is no longer possible" even over there.

thats because we have gun free zones over here.

 

[GM-GUY]

Concealed means concealed - unless there is a metal detector, "What sign?".

Pre-WWII Germany - THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait until the Wiemar Republic part II comes here (Hyper-Inflation)

My Grandfather left Germany in 1927, saw what they did, saw what the US Govt did from Nixon forward and knew it was over. He didn't know when or if he would see it but knew I would.

And by the way, Hyper-Inflation ALWAYS leads to the blame game and certain groups having to leave - ALWAYS. It may only be for a short while (refugee camps) or it may be complete insanity (Nazi) - either way everything ends - it's what's after that defines us.

 

[The5thDentist]

THIS article is EXCELLENT!! And that attorney's site is a treasure-trove of info for pro-gun activism. Thanks for the link. BTW, I printed an extra copy. David Linsky, you have mail.

 

[Dadstoys]

It is sad that this blatant reality is becoming lost in the living memory of the public.

That it now has to be brought up as a "shocking, little known” aspect of history is rather terrifying in its indication of how little we have learned from such recent and horrible history.

Well some folks do remember history though.
And they are using it as a template.
The really arrogant ones think they can do the same thing with better results.