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The Goose's Disclaimer:
First and foremost if you want something I am selling then say “I will take it”. I do not consider questions or inquiries as a commitment of any sort. Terms like “I am interested” mean nothing. The fact that we may be having a dialogue does not mean that I am waiting for you to make a decision. The person who steps up and says “I will take it, when do we meet” closes the deal.
• I expect you to read the ad. Every single time I sell anything I get at least one and usually multiple questions about something that is already stated in the ad. Yes it has a 5” barrel AS STATED IN THE FREAKIN” AD!
• I expect YOU to know that you want the item. I am not a store. Do your own research and visit a gun shop if you just want to handle a particular gun. And no I will not meet you at your club so you can try it out to see if you like it. Of course you get to inspect the gun before you buy it, but barring a mechanical or condition issue I expect you to buy it. If you are not sure then do not waste my time. I once met a prospective buyer at the range so that he could try out a revolver I was selling. After trying it out and BSing for more then an hour he simply said that it just did not fit his hand right. WTF!
• If you want to negotiate that is fine, but do not start out by telling me that my price is too high. This is not a good way to make friends and influence people. I have never made a dime on any private sale ever. In fact I routinely lose money and have often cut deals for a friend. I may be asking more then you want to pay, but the price is never too high. Also as stated in the first item above I do not consider negotiating a form of commitment. If you are in the process of offering less then I am asking and someone else says “I will take it” then you lose. Don’t bitch at me.
• I reserve the right to sell to whoever the hell I want. Having said that I scrupulously sell to the first person who makes a firm commitment. Provided that person does not piss me off. Such as demanding that the transaction take place that day, when it does not work for me. Also do not assume that just because you are the first person to post a reply on the forum that you are also the first person to contact me directly. Not everyone posts a reply, some folks just PM an “I will take it”. I am not obligated to justify anything to some guy I have never met who demands to know why he did not get the deal when he believes he was the first in line. You may also rest assured that if you take that tack that you will also not be first in line if the initial deal falls through.
• Do not ask me if it is MA compliant. Actually, feel free to ask me, but if you are depending upon my answer without doing your own research then you should not even be participating in a private transaction. Do your own damn research.
• Do not agree to a deal on line and then offer me less when we meet. If that happens the deal is over, no matter what. A deal is a deal. The time to negotiate is during the initial transaction, once the deal is made that’s it.
I didn't know what they were either, but now that I know I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I guess is comes down to "really?" pause, "no, REALLY?"
It seems like a joke, or a hormonal bitch session. Yes, people suck.
If you don't like the side of life that deals with the public, 'give' the gun to a dealer and move on.
I didn't know what they were either, but now that I know I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I guess is comes down to "really?" pause, "no, REALLY?"
It seems like a joke, or a hormonal bitch session. Yes, people suck.
If you don't like the side of life that deals with the public, 'give' the gun to a dealer and move on.
Goose is the man.
I didn't know what they were either, but now that I know I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I guess is comes down to "really?" pause, "no, REALLY?"
It seems like a joke, or a hormonal bitch session. Yes, people suck.
If you don't like the side of life that deals with the public, 'give' the gun to a dealer and move on.
The Goose was/is getting yanked around by to many people and wasting his time. Look up his profile and check his feedback and you will see he’s one of the best. I purchased a pistol that he under rated so he wouldn’t get any crap when someone looked at it. It was in better condition than he stated and I was very happy with the deal.
Try selling something and have a deal made only to have the buyer back out at the last minute or not show up, have that happen a few times and you’ll see those Goose Rules as necessary.
I didn't know what they were either, but now that I know I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I guess is comes down to "really?" pause, "no, REALLY?"
It seems like a joke, or a hormonal bitch session. Yes, people suck.
If you don't like the side of life that deals with the public, 'give' the gun to a dealer and move on.
Way too much coffee.The Goose's Disclaimer:
• First and foremost if you want something I am selling then say “I will take it”. I do not consider questions or inquiries as a commitment of any sort. Terms like “I am interested” mean nothing. The fact that we may be having a dialogue does not mean that I am waiting for you to make a decision. The person who steps up and says “I will take it, when do we meet” closes the deal.
• I expect you to read the ad. Every single time I sell anything I get at least one and usually multiple questions about something that is already stated in the ad. Yes it has a 5” barrel AS STATED IN THE FREAKIN” AD!
• I expect YOU to know that you want the item. I am not a store. Do your own research and visit a gun shop if you just want to handle a particular gun. And no I will not meet you at your club so you can try it out to see if you like it. Of course you get to inspect the gun before you buy it, but barring a mechanical or condition issue I expect you to buy it. If you are not sure then do not waste my time. I once met a prospective buyer at the range so that he could try out a revolver I was selling. After trying it out and BSing for more then an hour he simply said that it just did not fit his hand right. WTF!
• If you want to negotiate that is fine, but do not start out by telling me that my price is too high. This is not a good way to make friends and influence people. I have never made a dime on any private sale ever. In fact I routinely lose money and have often cut deals for a friend. I may be asking more then you want to pay, but the price is never too high. Also as stated in the first item above I do not consider negotiating a form of commitment. If you are in the process of offering less then I am asking and someone else says “I will take it” then you lose. Don’t bitch at me.
• I reserve the right to sell to whoever the hell I want. Having said that I scrupulously sell to the first person who makes a firm commitment. Provided that person does not piss me off. Such as demanding that the transaction take place that day, when it does not work for me. Also do not assume that just because you are the first person to post a reply on the forum that you are also the first person to contact me directly. Not everyone posts a reply, some folks just PM an “I will take it”. I am not obligated to justify anything to some guy I have never met who demands to know why he did not get the deal when he believes he was the first in line. You may also rest assured that if you take that tack that you will also not be first in line if the initial deal falls through.
• Do not ask me if it is MA compliant. Actually, feel free to ask me, but if you are depending upon my answer without doing your own research then you should not even be participating in a private transaction. Do your own damn research.
• Do not agree to a deal on line and then offer me less when we meet. If that happens the deal is over, no matter what. A deal is a deal. The time to negotiate is during the initial transaction, once the deal is made that’s it.
I didn't know what they were either, but now that I know I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I guess is comes down to "really?" pause, "no, REALLY?"
It seems like a joke, or a hormonal bitch session. Yes, people suck.
If you don't like the side of life that deals with the public, 'give' the gun to a dealer and move on.
You bitch about MGL 140 and all the rules designed to 'make you smarter' as a firearm owner.
Then you bitch that the average gun owner needs more rules....'Goose' rules are not going to make the buyer any smarter. Lets call it 'NES GL 101-goose'
Someone please call the Whaaambulance. The seller can do whatever they damn well please (within the rules) if you don't like their extra terms, then you are free to NOT buy from them.
It continually evades me why it is so hard for someone to just close an ad they don't like and move on.
This is no different than the constant battles we have with the "price whining illegal bump a**h*** crew" in the classifieds. (Jack Rebney voice = on) " If you don't like the price, then don't buy the f**kin thing!" (Jack Rebney voice = off).
Sorry, I just had to vent.
-Mike
Try selling something? I guess I wasn't clear. It's obvious lots of people here do not deal with the public in financial transactions.
Give the gun away....NOT BS, you see - you purchased something and took the risk. You want to make up for a decision 'that has changed', so you sell. You then risk dealing with the general public to make some money back. Simple really.
You do realize the general public are a bunch of complete mental midgets, right? You do see the way the general public votes in the land of moonbats, right?
I guess I am starting to get confused?????
You bitch about MGL 140 and all the rules designed to 'make you smarter' as a firearm owner.
Then you bitch that the average gun owner needs more rules....'Goose' rules are not going to make the buyer any smarter. Lets call it 'NES GL 101-goose'
If a seller has had such a large amount of 'bad' luck that raises suspicion of the seller, because everyone who has sold ANYTHING to the public knows this.
Just because people are sellers, dosn't mean they are not d-heads.
well, that goes for the sellers too. There are just as many people d-ing around selling as buying. Let me list some of the hijinks:
1. Being clueless. Having no idea what the f they are selling, as in (not deliberately but sometimes deliberately) misrepresenting the item, so you get there and see that it's the cheaper model, not what the seller was claiming it was
2. Fishing (reverse of tire kicking). I'm in no rush to sell this if ever, I'll just post it at some ridiculous price and when a reasonable offer comes in I'll d around to see how far I can drive up the price at my leisure.
3. Breaking a deal. Making a deal, then backing out because someone else jumps in at a higher price, at the last moment.
4. Lies. "Oh I never shot it, ever" "Works great, I just shot at the range last week"
5. That will buff out. Yep, the gun is ok, but it's missing a screw which is totally ok, because "you can get one in any gun shop for a penny."
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Just because people are sellers, dosn't mean they are not d-heads.
I didn't know what they were either, but now that I know I'm not sure how I feel about it.
I guess is comes down to "really?" pause, "no, REALLY?"
It seems like a joke, or a hormonal bitch session. Yes, people suck.
If you don't like the side of life that deals with the public, 'give' the gun to a dealer and move on.
Suggestion for the mods- Perhaps the "Goose rules" could be a sticky in the for sale sub sections so they could be referenced in the future?
• If you want to negotiate that is fine, but do not start out by telling me that my price is too high. This is not a good way to make friends and influence people.
I have never made a dime on any private sale ever. In fact I routinely lose money and have often cut deals for a friend.
I once met a prospective buyer at the range so that he could try out a revolver I was selling. After trying it out and BSing for more then an hour he simply said that it just did not fit his hand right. WTF!