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Franklin Armory Introduces Short Barrel ‘Firearm’ With Standard AR Stock and ATF Approval*

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mikeyp, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. GoodWillHunting

    GoodWillHunting NES Member

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    Haha, sorry I wasn't grouping you in the target demographic (which I think you probably nailed on the head) and I am cool with anyone selling/buying anything they want. This is very much in the "not-for-me" category. I guess I get carried away in "speaking my truth" president Oprah-style. :D:D

    I am also right there with you about the shorty non-nfa not-shotgun with a brace. That would be a pretty sweet unicorn.
     
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  2. Wrench75

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    I don't feel like digging around on the ATF site to find the page again but... Their stated way of measuring a firearm is to,

    Fully extend the stock.
    Place the gun on a table with the stock squared up against the corner of the table.
    Then measure from the edge of the table to the end of the barrel/muzzle device.

    That is exactly the process they spelled out in one of their documents I read about 2 months ago.

    I didn't find the other document that spells out the process but this at least confirms the stock extended part...

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/atf-national-firearms-act-handbook-chapter-2/download
     
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  3. LoginName

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  4. mikeyp

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    Or Rosie "acting" like a mentally handicapped person(caution, this movie was NOT supposed to be a comedy)

     
  5. BrianWilson

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    4 moa is roughly a 2 inch group at 50 yds , no? So across any room in my house, even down the central hallway its good for 1/2 inch groupings, no? Even if it's 4 inches (industry guy needs to get terminology straight) at 50yds, it's still very suitable for home defense IMHO. Well... if I could have one that is.
     
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    MODERN DAY PEA SHOOTER

    I like this a lot, just need a barrel.

    anybody have a shot out 223/556 heavy barrel that I can ream out and add some straight line scratches in it
     
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    May it be worth it for home defense, sure, but most likely not that well worth it at the price they'll be asking. I'm sure it won't be a "steal" even in free states.
     
  8. BrianWilson

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    Wonder what you get out of it for velocity. Obviously the short barrel is going to cost you some, but no rifling...hmmm.. less drag/ more speed....or less pressure/less speed ?
     
  9. mikeyp

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    And the memes are popping up lol

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    That's the big workaround? Yeeesh! Just pay the $200.
     
  11. Boris

    Boris Son of Kalashnikov NES Member

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    also wait a bunch, get your name in registry and make sure to notify feds when you want to bring it out of state. No thanks, I like my guns like Mora likes her "immigrants"
     
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    Or just buy an arm brace, or wait until every aftermarket vendor out there offers the same non-patented barrel technology.
     
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    Rifled muzzle brake. GTG
     
  14. mikeyp

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    Well, or better yet, just build a "pistol" and use that arm brace wallhack instead, and you can still put a real barrel on it. (ignoring MA bullshit for the sake of discussion wrt fed law).

    -Mike
     
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    This is well beyond stupid.
     
  17. Boris

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    what is stupid are PPSh with 16" barrel:
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    MP40 with 16" barrel:

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    no, arm brace on any of them would suck even harder. The football bullets offer 1moa at 100 yards. They will get cheaper if there is demand.
     
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    Reformation

    Nothing new lately. But if they offered uppers, I have to wonder what might be the ramifications of swapping one onto an existing AR? If they can produce a 1 MOA flechette, in 300BLK...
     

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