Four Seasons has the M&P 2.0

[rwl1955]

Smith & Wesson Shield 2.0 and M&P 2.0 pistols

NEW! Shield 2.0 9mm with thumb safety NEW!

The first shipment of Smith & Wesson
Shield 2.0 and M&P 2.0 pistols has arrived!
Stop by the shop and check them out.
NEW! M&P 2.0 9mm NEW!

 

[TomMontana]

 

[E.Stoner]

FYI i've heard some problems with the 2.0 QC including with several instances of barrel lugs separating. I'm interesting in the gun but not in a rush to discover first run manufacturing quirks.

 

[Amputee Marksman]

FYI i've heard some problems with the 2.0 QC including with several instances of barrel lugs separating. I'm interesting in the gun but not in a rush to discover first run manufacturing quirks.

IDK , They've been pumping them out for a year and the MA version would be recent manufacture with no changes to barrel design. My 2.0, free state version, has had no issues however I will admit it has not been shot a lot.

 

[Cartoons]

Holding my breath for a 2.0 9c...

 

[E.Stoner]

IDK , They've been pumping them out for a year and the MA version would be recent manufacture with no changes to barrel design. My 2.0, free state version, has had no issues however I will admit it has not been shot a lot.

I agree. Any mechanical device can fail and these could be flukes. I personally don't think a year of production is very long in gun terms and within 1-2 years you start seeing the material problems that might have been in the early models as the round count starts to stack up into +2000-4000 range. This is like the 60,000-80,000 mile mark for a car.
I will pick one up at some point, but probably a compact.

This is the image I saw that stuck in my head via MAC's instagram, this is a 3000 round gun:


View: https://www.instagram.com/p/BddMEMHAd20/?hl=en&taken-by=militaryarms

 

[84ta406]

I've never seen a pistol barrel made but I was under the assumption they were generally one piece. That separation is so clean it had to be two pieces that were what I would assume welded together. I'll have to go look at a few of my own pistols now.

 

[DrBurnsides]

That's a very clean break. I'd go with flaw in the metal. Or a very specific type of stress fracture. Electron microscope with xrd would work wonders here.

 

[E.Stoner]

Seems like either an intrinsic material flaw or improper hardening. Might be be a one in a million variation that could not have been detected or prevented.
Or it could be a process flaw that you wouldnt see until the round count starts piling up. This is a very common kind of problem with generational changes. Same reason I wont run out and buy a Sig P365 for at least 9-18 months after they hit the streets. I am shiny-gun-whore, but I buy guns to shoot and don't have any interest in being on the "beta-team".

 

[rocket500]

With so many companies now selling guns with good trigger pulls in MA I’m done buying pistols that need trigger jobs out of the box.

 

[BigTimber]

Sweet! another smith auto I'd never consider buying.

 

[ruebarb]

Is Four Seasons too cheap to pay $100 to advertise here?

 

[Dexion1619]

I've never seen a pistol barrel made but I was under the assumption they were generally one piece. That separation is so clean it had to be two pieces that were what I would assume welded together. I'll have to go look at a few of my own pistols now.

I have, I make a few hundred a night.

It's all one piece, it's milled from a single piece of bar stock on a 5 Axis CNC lathe.

 

[drgrant]

Did someone say M&P?

 

[The5thDentist]

 

[84ta406]

I have, I make a few hundred a night.

It's all one piece, it's milled from a single piece of bar stock on a 5 Axis CNC lathe.

Thanks that's what I figured. That's one hell of a clean break on there. It definitely looks like there's tool marks on the barrel where it's broken.

 

[Arto]

can you get a close up of the fracture surfaces? if it looks like a "waves on a beach" pattern, it could be a metal fatigue issue...
Metal Fatigue in Engineering

 

[jayhitek]

A little J-B Weld and it's good to go..

 

[Paul455]

If has parts, it can and fill fail eventually.

"The end cannot be defeated"

 

[whacko]

Is Four Seasons too cheap to pay $100 to advertise here?

They don't need to advertise here. Four seasons is the Wal Mart of mass gun shops. Don't believe me? Go there on a Saturday and take a number.

 

[mac1911]

Are the 2.0 that different where the production bugs are not outed yet?

 

[ThePreBanMan]

A Smith and Wesson gun failing... say it ain't so.... that's so unexpected. I've owned a lot of guns. A few had problems. Of the ones that had problems they all had the Smith and Wesson name on them.

Been done with the brand for a while.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Are the 2.0 that different where the production bugs are not outed yet?

I've had a few come through, no issues I've heard of. My own personal 2.0C has been chugging along - eats everything, plenty accurate, shoots soft. One of the best guns I have.