With my luck i would be the one in a millionThat video of the dude downrange made big waves when it appeared, mainly because epic ****ups like that are basically unicorn level rare.
-Mike
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With my luck i would be the one in a millionThat video of the dude downrange made big waves when it appeared, mainly because epic ****ups like that are basically unicorn level rare.
-Mike
Are you insinuating I can't shoot. I do pretty well for an old guy with failing eyes. I have gone and watched a couple IDPA matches and most of the shooters there seemed to be under control but there was a lot going on, lot of room for mistakes.
Videos like the one that started this thread scare the shit out of me. I will have to take the word of people who go to these all the time that these events are rare. I just don't want to be the rare guy who gets shot.
So the video is fake and the shooting while someone was down range didn't happen.When was the last time you heard of someone getting shot at an IDPA/USPSA competition?
As it is, you are making a decision based on no first-hand information.
Your comparison is irrelevant and wrong. I am all for everyone having a gun in the house. The guy who shot himself in the hand is the same kind of guy who would shoot his balls off trying to upholster in the car. you cant fix stupid[/QUOTE]You are like the folks who say you should never have guns in your house because you saw an article about a moron who shot himself in the hand while "cleaning" his Glock.
Are you insinuating I can't shoot. I do pretty well for an old guy with failing eyes. I have gone and watched a couple IDPA matches and most of the shooters there seemed to be under control but there was a lot going on, lot of room for mistakes.
Videos like the one that started this thread scare the shit out of me. I will have to take the word of people who go to these all the time that these events are rare. I just don't want to be the rare guy who gets shot.
So the video is fake and the shooting while someone was down range didn't happen.
You cannot make an omlette without breaking eggs. Yes, it has happened - VERY rarely.When was the last time you heard of someone getting shot at an IDPA/USPSA competition?
Are you insinuating I can't shoot. I do pretty well for an old guy with failing eyes. I have gone and watched a couple IDPA matches and most of the shooters there seemed to be under control but there was a lot going on, lot of room for mistakes.
Videos like the one that started this thread scare the shit out of me. I will have to take the word of people who go to these all the time that these events are rare. I just don't want to be the rare guy who gets shot.
Fair enough, I will try to take in another and I will pay close attention to the safety measures in place.No one has any basis to insinuate anything about your shooting ability because you don't shoot matches. Your fears are not based in reality, and if you came to a match you'd be pleasantly surprised.
Fair enough, I will try to take in another and I will pay close attention to the safety measures in place.
As an SO I've seen some fairly stupid things.I have yet to give out a DQ though because the situations weren't of epic proportion (so far everyone has responded well to me yelling muzzle in their ears).
As an SO I've seen some fairly stupid things.I have yet to give out a DQ though because the situations weren't of epic proportion (so far everyone has responded well to me yelling muzzle in their ears). I'm more amazed I haven't gotten a DQ myself yet. An unintentional mistake away from happening I guess. I'm also glad my son is very active in USPSA and IDPA and the other competitors and SO's have taken time to show him how to move properly and safely while moving or reloading etc. If in anyway I felt either "game" was unsafe I wouldn't let him compete.
. I feel like I'm missing an incident, and that I DQ'ed a third person, but I can't recall it at the moment.
Now I remember. Also at an NER IDPA match. There was a prone stage. During the walk through, competitors were allowed to go prone to check out the shooting position. One of the guys went prone, got up, and his gun was left behind -- it had come out of his holster when he went prone.
As DQs go, that one was a bummer. Oh well. He knew his holster was too loose, but he didn't fix it and so he paid the price. Still a bummer, though.
That is a DQ in IDPA?
It is not is USPSA, as long as the situation is addressed correctly.
Yeah that about sums it upIsn't the deal in USPSA you're supposed to summon an RO to retrieve the gun (presuming it was a gun that just fell out of a holster without someone handling it) but with a loaded gun if dropped, is always a DQ?
-Mike
That is a DQ in IDPA?
It is not is USPSA, as long as the situation is addressed correctly.
2.3.2 If a competitor drops a loaded or unloaded firearm or causes it to fall within a stage boundary it is a Disqualification from the match
If at any time a USPSA competitor drops a loaded gun, It is certainly a DQIt is in IDPA.
If the competitor was outside of the stage boundary -- say at the car, or at the safe table -- then it wouldn't be a DQ.
The only thing I can possibly think of is it is a roundabout way of trying to deter people from using shitty equipment or at least to be mindful of their gear, but the "portapotta OK stage not" thing is kinda baffling. Maybe they think odds of the gun somehow magically having ammunition in it are greater on a stage. Even most of the speed holsters these days have some kind of a locking mechanism on them, and every time I've seen a gun fall out of one of those holsters, the locking thing was broken or either not used by the owner because lazytown....
-Mike
If at any time a USPSA competitor drops a loaded gun, It is certainly a DQ We have a great example of IDPA silliness rules. People bump into each other during target taping / stage reset, you could trip and fall on the way to the porta-john, any number of things can cause an unloaded gun to fall from holster. gun falls out of holster within a stage boundary -DQ gun falls out of holster at the porta-potty -not DQ What is the reasoning behind that one?
The lesson here is if you are shooting a match in which dropping a gun while working a stage is a DQ, do as little taping and steel resetting as possible.People bump into each other during target taping / stage reset, you could trip and fall on the way to the porta-john, any number of things can cause an unloaded gun to fall from holster.
In USPSA, it's any dropping after load and make ready until after the gun is cleared and holstered at the end of a stage, whether loaded or not.but with a loaded gun if dropped, is always a DQ?
Neither was I. I've never seen a Cooper Tunnel in a match. Are they still used?
I've seen shooters turn the wrong way on several occasions, sweeping the RO and squad. I've rarely seen an ND.
The Cooper Tunnels I have encountered were so low that you had to crawl and thus could not draw your gun until you had exited. If the tunnel's dimensions were generous enough to allow the competitor to draw while still inside, I would expect the stage brief would be required to warn against this practice.
So my big take away from that video is the low percentage of time the RO actually stopped the competitor. A lot of time it looks like they were just letting them continue
the guy at the 4:06 mark...thats more of a range rule than anything...not really unsafe.