Construction crews find vintage machine gun

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FLORENCE - Working in bridge construction, Paul Haralson has found some very interesting items while clearing debris from creeks and from under bridges.

But nothing compares to what he found a few weeks ago while working on the new bridge on Rasch Road.

"We had torn out the old bridge and were cleaning out the debris from the creek," said Haralson, owner of Shotcrete of America. "I was in the creek with a trackhoe scooping up the debris and clearing out the creek some. I had already made a couple of scoops with the bucket, and when I pulled the bucket up, there it was.

"Right there in the middle of the bucket pointing at me was a machine gun."

It was a Browning M1919 air-cooled machine gun - a weapon developed at the end of the World War I and used in World War II and the Korean and Vietnam wars.

"Over the years, I've found bicycles, televisions, a motorcycle, tires and other things, but never a machine gun. I was surprised," Haralson said.

There was no doubt in his mind what the item was when he saw it.

"I could tell exactly what it was as soon as it came up in the bucket," he said with a laugh.

Members of Haralson's crew carefully unloaded the weapon and placed it in the back of his truck. Haralson drove to the sheriff's department and turned it over to Sheriff Ronnie Willis.

Willis said his office has been in touch with agents from Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms about the weapon.

"No one has any idea of where it came from or how it got in the creek," Willis said.

The bridge, which crosses Little Cypress Creek, is the county's oldest. The 74-year-old structure is at the base of Rasch Hill.

Willis said he is hoping to clean the weapon enough to get a serial number from it, which could help provide more information.

"I'd love to know how it got in the creek. But that's anybody's guess," the sheriff said.

Haralson said it was stuck in the creek bed under a lot of mud and muck.

"It could have been stolen and thrown in the creek to hide; who knows," Willis said. "There's no telling how long the weapon has been in the creek."

According to the American Gunsmithing Institute, the weapon, in its heyday, would be placed on a tripod and required two- or three-man teams to operate. The weapon was carried by a gunner and the tripod and ammunition carried by the other members of the team.

The weapon also could be placed on a swivel on a Jeep or other vehicle.

"It's definitely a conversation piece around the office," Willis said. "It would be interesting to try and track its history. Who knows where the gun has been or where it was used."

Haralson said the gun must have been in the creek for several years because it was so deep in the mud.

"And it could have been there a lot of longer if we hadn't been working on replacing the bridge," he said. "There's hundreds of creeks throughout the county, and there's no telling what's been thrown in them. This just goes to show, you never know what you can find in a creek."

http://www.timesdaily.com/article/20100405/ARTICLES/4055015/1011/NEWS?Title=Construction-crews-find-vintage-machine-gun#
 
It doesn't look like it was there long. What a shame. It was probably never registered and was discarded to get rid of the evidence once someone realized what they had....
 
Good thing this didn't happen in the UK or Haralson would be in jail right now

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as funny as that is... I cant decide if what you are saying is actually far fetched or most likely what would happen. Who the heck knows in todays world.

Rob
 
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as funny as that is... I cant decide if what you are saying is actually far fetched or most likely what would happen. Who the heck knows in todays world.

Rob

He's not joking.

A situation similar to that did happen in the UK and the person was charged (I don't recall the outcome).

Cliff Notes version... a guy in Merry'Ol found a a gun or a bag with a gun in it and instead of leaving it there and calling the constables, he picked it up, brought it to the station and was charged with some ludicrous crime.

Edit to add... found it...

UPDATE: Ex-soldier walks free from court
Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 12:15

GUN FIND SOLDIER WALKS FREE FROM COURT

A former soldier who handed a discarded shotgun in to police faces at least five years imprisonment for "doing his duty".

Paul Clarke, 27, was found guilty of possessing a firearm at Guildford Crown Court on Tuesday – after finding the gun and handing it personally to police officers on March 20 this year.

The jury took 20 minutes to make its conviction, and Mr Clarke now faces a minimum of five year's imprisonment for handing in the weapon.

In a statement read out in court, Mr Clarke said: "I didn't think for one moment I would be arrested.

"I thought it was my duty to hand it in and get it off the streets."

The court heard how Mr Clarke was on the balcony of his home in Nailsworth Crescent, Merstham, when he spotted a black bin liner at the bottom of his garden.

In his statement, he said: "I took it indoors and inside found a shorn-off shotgun and two cartridges.

"I didn't know what to do, so the next morning I rang the Chief Superintendent, Adrian Harper, and asked if I could pop in and see him.

"At the police station, I took the gun out of the bag and placed it on the table so it was pointing towards the wall."

Mr Clarke was then arrested immediately for possession of a firearm at Reigate police station, and taken to the cells.

Defending, Lionel Blackman told the jury Mr Clarke's garden backs onto a public green field, and his garden wall is significantly lower than his neighbours.

He also showed jurors a leaflet printed by Surrey Police explaining to citizens what they can do at a police station, which included "reporting found firearms".

Quizzing officer Garnett, who arrested Mr Clarke, he asked: "Are you aware of any notice issued by Surrey Police, or any publicity given to, telling citizens that if they find a firearm the only thing they should do is not touch it, report it by telephone, and not take it into a police station?"

To which, Mr Garnett replied: "No, I don't believe so."

Prosecuting, Brian Stalk, explained to the jury that possession of a firearm was a "strict liability" charge – therefore Mr Clarke's allegedly honest intent was irrelevant.

Just by having the gun in his possession he was guilty of the charge, and has no defence in law against it, he added.

But despite this, Mr Blackman urged members of the jury to consider how they would respond if they found a gun.

He said: "This is a very small case with a very big principle.

"You could be walking to a railway station on the way to work and find a firearm in a bin in the park.

"Is it unreasonable to take it to the police station?"

Paul Clarke will be sentenced on December 11.

Judge Christopher Critchlow said: "This is an unusual case, but in law there is no dispute that Mr Clarke has no defence to this charge.

"The intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant."

http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/...nding-gun/article-1509082-detail/article.html
 
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He's not joking.

A situation similar to that did happen in the UK and the person was charged (I don't recall the outcome).

Cliff Notes version... a guy in Merry'Ol found a a gun or a bag with a gun in it and instead of leaving it there and calling the constables, he picked it up, brought it to the station and was charged with some ludicrous crime.

http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/...nding-gun/article-1509082-detail/article.html

Yup, this is exactly the story I was thinking of when I posted my comment.
IIRC from the original story, the gun was a completely rusted relic that was incapable of firing.
 
BTW, if you go by the GCAB/EOPS interpretation of MGL on machine guns, merely putting a finger on one when you don't possess a MG License is a crime in MA! [shocked]

So, you can guess how this could go in MA at many PDs if you were to do the same thing sans "green card". [rolleyes]
 
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