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Boston Proposes State Law Requiring Doctors to Ask About Guns In the Home

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  1. wahsben

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    Q: are the any guns in the home?
    A: no
     
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    Just say no.
     
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    Does it require them to record answers? To advise against gun ownership?

    Marty Walsh is a piece of shit. We can thank the unions for getting him elected.
     
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    Maathy can't control guns on the streets.
     
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    requiring? What if the doctor doesn't want to get involved in gun politics, and chooses not to play their game either?

    Are doctors now going to start narc'ing on otherwise law-abiding gun owners to start more ERPO gun confiscations?

    Slippery slope.

    "That's DOCTOR Big Brother to you, Winston Smith"
     
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    Not his goal. Never was the Donks' goal, in fact.
     
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    Shouldn't they be concerned about the patient's mental health to determine risk of suicide, not if there are firearms in the home? Do they ask about the infinite other methods people chose to end their lives?
     
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    And if you just refuse to answer? "Screw you Doc, that ain't none of your god dammed business."
     
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    Next they will make it a crime to lie to a doctor , same as lying to the FBI.
     
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    Some probably will. It does mention ERPO in the article.
     
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    f*** you. You don't speak on behalf of practicing doctors at all. A "responsibility" to speak to patients about gun ownership? GFYS
     
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    Compelled speech? Hmmm... “You must ask patients if they own guns, but your children need not recite the Pledge of Allegiance.”
     
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    Perfect!
     
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    They only ask you that because of the poison they subscribe you, ask me.how or why.
     
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    Medical malpractice is far more common than a bad guy shooting someone or themselves.
     
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    None in my home.....they have their own home
     
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    I get it if it regards a patient with mental health issues, the doctor has formed a trustful bond with said patient, and this info is protected by HIPAA laws. This doctor would discuss this as part of the patient’s well being and safety plan.

    Lumping this together with a child abuse claim as mandated reporting to authorities is madness. I expect nothing less from the greater medical community in Boston as I have seen first hand.
     
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    While this is just more horse BS so that they can wiggle their way into condemning lawful gun ownership, there was another rather interesting article about Athol Police using force via a taser to subdue a psych patient and whether or not that was excessive force used against a person because "they had a disability". While there are initial concerns for fellow LEO's, but I believe it could have implications for lawfully armed citizens protecting themselves from immediate lethal or serious physical harm from psych patients (at least in the Commonwealth). I apologize for not being able to link the article.
     
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    The answer is always no. Then, do you? You should see the look on the persons face.[rofl]
     
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    This is fact even without lawyers. I could ask my father but they f***ed that opportunity up.
     
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    Doctor: Do you have guns in your home?
    Patient: How I have porn do you watch? How much do you drink? Do you ever have fantasies?

    Doctor: that’s an inappropriate question and one of your business
    Patient: Exactly
     
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    FIFY
     
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    Very interesting actually.

    Right now there is a law that if a doctor prescribes a controlled substance, they have to check the state database of controlled substance prescriptions which lists every controlled substance you've been prescribed.
    This is easy to check - did the doctor precribe something and if they did, is there a record of them accessing the database the day prescription was written. So, if the state thinks some doctors are not doing their due diligence, all they need is to run a database check.

    Now how are they going to enforce the gun law?

    Obviously this will be yet another checkbox in the electronic medical record system, very likely it will be asked even before you see the doctor by the medical assistant or the nurse, the usual million questions they type and click before each visit now (do you drink, do you smoke crack, are you being abused, etc).

    Most doctors are employed by large organizations like Partners, UMass, etc, etc.
    So, state passes the law.
    Partners CEO says, ok, eh, new law, we got to put in one more checkbox for you guys to click on.
    End of the year they run reports on all doctors.
    After that, who knows.
    The organization will probably deal with it the way they deal with other "quality metrics" - punish doctors who fail them. You failed the gun violence metric - get fined $5000.

    Of course if they are really hardcore they could do whatever they want - they could pull a few medical licenses just to scare everyone else.
     
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    Buddy of mine from work who lives in CT told me that his wife came home from taking their son to the pediatrician the other day. Handed him some literature. In the literature was included a bunch of crap about not storing guns in the house, and if it was absolutely necessary to do so, then the guns should be disassembled and stored separately from the ammunition.

    I took him to the range last summer with probably half-a-dozen handguns and a couple rifles right after he got his permit so that he could get a feel for some different firearms. He liked my Glocks and now has a G17. He was very unhappy with the literature.

    He said that the pediatrician's very good - but the anti-gun literature infuriates him.
     

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