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I'll concur.
The Border Patrolman apparently lost his temper and went out of control.
Less than lethal weapons were there. THat's what should have been used.
Shooting a rock thrower is NOT right, even if it is a Mexican trying to illegally cross the border.
I am now a border patrol agent. I have seen lots of internal photographs and stats. concerning rockings, particularly here in douglas AZ.
A rock is a lethal weapon end of story.
Agents have been killed by rocks. Agents have been brain damaged by rocks. Agents have been permanently disfigured by them.
Part of the training is telling the throwers to drop the rocks. If they don't and persist in throwing, that their choice. Ask. Tell. Make. If a man with a gun pointed at me tells me to stop doing something, I'm listening. Also, I think more people have died by rocks than any other weapon in history.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/BorderWar/ARIZONA/ROCKPHOTOS/InteriorConsole011601-3.gif
http://www.americanpatrol.com/BorderWar/ARIZONA/ROCKPHOTOS/BloodyPprwork011601-6.gif
you use the least force as possible in the situation, without getting yourself injured. you know that, i know that. shooting every single person that has a deadly weapon is absolutely asinine when less then lethal weapons are provided.
"'You want a fight? You want a war? Let's do it,'" Martinez, 52, quoted the agent as saying.
Point is what may seem overkill actually de-escalates a situation the fastest way possible with the least amount injury.
you use the least force as possible in the situation, without getting yourself injured. you know that, i know that. shooting every single person that has a deadly weapon is absolutely asinine when less then lethal weapons are provided.
Edgar Israel Ortega Chavez was shot Tuesday night in his left buttocks and was in stable condition,
Are you a Border Patrolman?
No?
So is it safe to assume you know next to shit about their RoE. Right?
So in essence, you do not know what the Border Patrol RoEs are. You are just shooting off your mouth.jose i can make a ass out of you for the 4th time in less then 45 days if you want. every time you challenge me, i reply and you disappear.
the RoE is similar for crowd control in almost all instances, from my experiance its not drastically different.
your a idiot, go find a ohio gun site & shut it.
Got any law enforcement credentials? The ones that come from a box of cheerios or a CCW badge don't count.
None of which mean shit from shinola to the US Border Patrol.here goes;
1: i have over 10 hours of traning with the mass state police roit control team (2004)
2: i have over 50 hours of roit control training (2004, 2006)
3: i lost count of how many RoE classes i sat through (2004, 2006, 2007)
and get ready for this one jose
i was a MP overseas in a battalion that was in charge of crowd control and roit control.
thats number 4th time youve been shut down.
1: i have over 10 hours of traning with the mass state police roit control team (2004)
2: i have over 50 hours of roit control training (2004, 2006)
3: i lost count of how many RoE classes i sat through (2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007)