ATF allegedly bans import of UTM non-lethal ammo for non-LEA, non-.mil use

[DispositionMatrix]

UTM sent a letter to its customers explaining the ban.


"Stop right where you are! You know the score, pal! You're not a cop, you're little people."--Bryant

 

[Cap'n Mike]

WTF?
There basicly just blanks???

 

[Mesatchornug]

WTF?
There basicly just blanks???

We mustn't let the unorganized militia regulate themselves well.

 

[MaverickNH]

Dang - a lot of LE organizations have heavy investments in UTM guns. I was shot with one such round just a few weeks ago in Active Shooter training (unexpectedly - an errant round, they do skip at low angles). Does any US manufacturer make ammo that fits?

 

[Drix]

If I were UTM I'd be jacking the price up to cover the loss of civ8lilian sales.

 

[jkelly1229]

Wait civvies could buy this stuff?

Shit i always wanted some

 

[Junior314]

If I were UTM I'd be jacking the price up to cover the loss of civ8lilian sales.

I get your point but they are all civilian sales. Our taxes are buying it.

Question I know the answer to but... why does the ATF have the authority to do this?

 

[Kevin_NH]

WTF?
There basicly just blanks???

UTM sells "captive piston" blanks, marker rounds, and conversion kits.

The article specifies their "NLTA" marker rounds, a lower velocity competitor of Simunitions (the latter being imported from Canada), UTM also sells a "UTX" round, to use in the Simunitions FX conversion kit.

Simunitions, despite being an import, isn't subject to this blockage becauses they've never sold to us lowly Civvies.

 

[Cap'n Mike]

UTM sells "captive piston" blanks, marker rounds, and conversion kits.

The article specifies their "NLTA" marker rounds, a lower velocity competitor of Simunitions (the latter being imported from Canada), UTM also sells a "UTX" round, to use in the Simunitions FX conversion kit.

Simunitions, despite being an import, isn't subject to this blockage becauses they've never sold to us lowly Civvies.

I demoed some of their "Non Firing" training stuff a few years back, I was under the mistaken impression that that was all they sold.

 

[Kevin_NH]

Question I know the answer to but... why does the ATF have the authority to do this?

Apparently less-than-lethal ammunition doesn't fall into the sporting ammunition category. See 18 U.S.C. § 922, §925 and 27 CFR §447.52 for authority to regulate ammo import.

Simunitions has always restricted their sales, maybe they knew something?

 

[In God We Trust]

 

[Cap'n Mike]

Question I know the answer to but... why does the ATF have the authority to do this?

Im guessing its the importation end of it.

 

[Drix]

I get your point but they are all civilian sales. Our taxes are buying it.

Question I know the answer to but... why does the ATF have the authority to do this?

I agree with you, police are civilians. Wasn't sure how else to word. Municipal sales?