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Article: Why Do Democrats Keep Trying to Ban Guns That Look Scary, Not the Guns That
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Just sent it to the Moulton campaign...
DispositionMatrix
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I assume this is rhetorical here, since we all (should) understand by now that the civilian disarmament enthusiasts have never been motivated by safety.
Exactly. Emotional issue that can be leveraged for political gain. The ultimate in cynicism.
They make the best photo-op and play well on TV snews by the LSM.
Glockster30
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Democrats keep going after scary guns because they do not want to admit to the failures of the "Great Society" in the past 50 years. The majority of large cities that democrats prevail in do not address the underlying issues of poverty, drugs, and crime in their "democratic plantations." Even the police perpetuate the myth that they are under-gunned compared to what the gang-bangers use; hence the ever increasing militarization of the police forces.
Another large issue is the failure of the mental health care system in this country, especially when it was decided to close down mental health institutions. Much of this failure was detailed in a 60 Minutes segment aired last night. There are not enough mental health facilities, beds in hospitals, or mental health professionals to take care of people that need care. Therefore, the majority of the people that need care end up in ER, kept and monitored for a few days, and then are released before they are ready. In most cases, the doctors have to call insurance companies on a daily basis to ensure that health insurance will still cover the patient. However, the insurance companies tell the doctors if the patient is stabilized, then they need to release the patient because insurance will not pay for further care. The attached link is the airing of the 60 Minutes segment. Although most people are aware of the mental health care failures, this segment is still an eye-opener.
This new link works:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nowhere-to-go-mentally-ill-youth-60-minutes/
Another large issue is the failure of the mental health care system in this country, especially when it was decided to close down mental health institutions. Much of this failure was detailed in a 60 Minutes segment aired last night. There are not enough mental health facilities, beds in hospitals, or mental health professionals to take care of people that need care. Therefore, the majority of the people that need care end up in ER, kept and monitored for a few days, and then are released before they are ready. In most cases, the doctors have to call insurance companies on a daily basis to ensure that health insurance will still cover the patient. However, the insurance companies tell the doctors if the patient is stabilized, then they need to release the patient because insurance will not pay for further care. The attached link is the airing of the 60 Minutes segment. Although most people are aware of the mental health care failures, this segment is still an eye-opener.
This new link works:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nowhere-to-go-mentally-ill-youth-60-minutes/
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According to this article, there is about a 1/8000 chance of a schoolboy dying from sudden heart failure during excercise.
So we're killing hundreds of school kids with gym class.
What about that? if it saves one life, please, please drop gym class. It's for the children!
So we're killing hundreds of school kids with gym class.
What about that? if it saves one life, please, please drop gym class. It's for the children!
Part of why they have gone after "assault weapons" is to confuse the issue. By creating the term and only vaguely defining it, they were able to confuse people into thinking that criminals were using fully automatic weapons to go on killing sprees. Confusion is great when you are using emotions and not logic to try to get bans.
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Simple. Criminals aren't responsible for their actions. We, as society are responsible because we've failed them. We didn't give them enough free shit. That, and the guns influenced them to commit their crimes. Also, white privilege and Bush's fault with side of it takes a village to raise a child.
Right, all of us who shoot for fun have incredibly strong wills to resist the whispers of "kill kill kill" every time we pick up a gun /sarcasm
Some of the previous answers have been good but I'll venture that I have another very good one to add:
It's also because they don't just want to ban the "ugly" guns - they want to ban ALL of them. Starting with the ugly, scary guns gives them the biggest Scare The Soccer Moms value for the buck and it also gives them the widest universe in which to draft increasingly restrictive legislation. So part of it is the Scary Story narrative power and the other part is the "bargaining chip" power that going after the Black Rifles and other "scary looking guns" has. It's an excellent strategy.
Don't insult your own intelligence by misconstruing the end goal, which is a blanket prohibition on private ownership of ALL firearms. In the end they will accept nothing less.
To put it another way: they choose the "ugly guns" because they *understand completely* that they're used in very, very few crimes. If they can ban the "ugly guns" just for being ugly, they can ban them ALL. People who don't understand that are oblivious to the real end game.
It's also because they don't just want to ban the "ugly" guns - they want to ban ALL of them. Starting with the ugly, scary guns gives them the biggest Scare The Soccer Moms value for the buck and it also gives them the widest universe in which to draft increasingly restrictive legislation. So part of it is the Scary Story narrative power and the other part is the "bargaining chip" power that going after the Black Rifles and other "scary looking guns" has. It's an excellent strategy.
Don't insult your own intelligence by misconstruing the end goal, which is a blanket prohibition on private ownership of ALL firearms. In the end they will accept nothing less.
To put it another way: they choose the "ugly guns" because they *understand completely* that they're used in very, very few crimes. If they can ban the "ugly guns" just for being ugly, they can ban them ALL. People who don't understand that are oblivious to the real end game.
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Also, the larger mental health system isn't the problem as much as the fact that the mass shooters who have come to define the "crisis" examples that lead to gun ban initiatives HAVE been treated - but the big thing a lot of them have in common is that they've been *protected* to one extent or another from the full ramifications of their diagnoses. Adam Lanza was known to have severe problems throughout his entire life by his family and others close to him, but nevertheless his family made a Sisyphean attempt to *mainstream* him. He was most probably an undiagnosed schizophrenic and his family did not WANT that formal diagnosis applied to him. And it's relatively easy to understand why: it is a profound diagnosis. His father is/was a high-ranking GE executive. It was a relatively wealthy family. The social stigma of having a diagnosed schizophrenic as your child is not something to be trifled with. It's an exceptionally painful situation in that echelon (and it is in any echelon, but even more so) to have to answer the question:
"So, how's you're younger son doing? Where's he going to college?"
"Well, he's a schizophrenic, he's going into treatment, not to college."
"Oh. I see. See you at the golf club this weekend?"
If you're interested, the single best example of a thoughtful investigation of Adam Lanza's life was done by PBS Frontline. In some ways it just scratches the surface.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/raising-adam-lanza/
"So, how's you're younger son doing? Where's he going to college?"
"Well, he's a schizophrenic, he's going into treatment, not to college."
"Oh. I see. See you at the golf club this weekend?"
If you're interested, the single best example of a thoughtful investigation of Adam Lanza's life was done by PBS Frontline. In some ways it just scratches the surface.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/raising-adam-lanza/
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