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Indeed, though if he and the perpetrator were ever to meet on the outside, it just might have.
I think veterans should be added to LEOSA
If civilians can't why should rent a cops and police officers be able to.
They are civilians too. They have you duped if you think otherwise.
held to that standard at all times, plain and simple
but don't crap on LEOs b/c were allowed to carry anywhere.
I could be wrong, as I only did a brief skim through the thread just now, but I think there are more LEO's and retired LEO's that have posted in this thread that are in agreement with you than disagreement with you. Not much can be done about the badgesniffers, though, unless you want us to pull out the jack boots and stomp on their 1A rights for you.This thread is just more example of why I legitimately hate cops.
NES: "that's screwed up that cop did (insert legitimately ****ed up thing)".
NES cops and badgesniffers: "you guys don't get it. Stop cop bashing."
Or
NES: "nobody should get special treatment, and the law should apply equally to all".
NES C/BS: "we get special treatment because we are special. And if you don't think we should get at least the special treatment we currently get, screw you".
To NES pigs: FOAD.
Obie, this doesn't apply to you... You seem to be legitimately one of the good ones... But for the love of god, you and your brothers are running out of time to purge your ranks of the shitbags. The system is driving a wedge between police and citizens... And actions of some of the police are pounding that wedge hard.
To you cops here... Ask yourself... Are you Law Enforcement Officers or Officers of the Peace? If you consider yourself law enforcement, you are the goddamn problem. By it's very nature, LE means subjugating the populace to the will of words on paper, regardless of what any normally calibrated moral compass would indicate as right or wrong.
anyone with a DD214 or only those that served in/during combat?
This thread is just more example of why I legitimately hate cops.
NES: "that's screwed up that cop did (insert legitimately ****ed up thing)".
NES cops and badgesniffers: "you guys don't get it. Stop cop bashing."
Or
NES: "nobody should get special treatment, and the law should apply equally to all".
NES C/BS: "we get special treatment because we are special. And if you don't think we should get at least the special treatment we currently get, screw you".
To NES pigs: FOAD.
Obie, this doesn't apply to you... You seem to be legitimately one of the good ones... But for the love of god, you and your brothers are running out of time to purge your ranks of the shitbags. The system is driving a wedge between police and citizens... And actions of some of the police are pounding that wedge hard.
To you cops here... Ask yourself... Are you Law Enforcement Officers or Officers of the Peace? If you consider yourself law enforcement, you are the goddamn problem. By it's very nature, LE means subjugating the populace to the will of words on paper, regardless of what any normally calibrated moral compass would indicate as right or wrong.
From who, other than Kisspik002?I saw a shit ton of half assed justification in the vein of economists example of expanding a whites only policy to include asians and calling it better...
From who, other than Kisspik002?
With regard to providing details later, thank you. Regarding the remainder of the post, I thought it was rhetorical. I guess the only comment I could make is that I don't belong to a union, so I don't pay dues.I'm on my phone right now, but I'll detail my justifications later. In the meantime, no comment on the remainder of my last post?
additionally... Guys like the afformentioned should be stomped on publicly and harshely by the rest of you. You should be taking every opportunity to show the public that not only do you not concur with those points of view, they won't be tolerated in your community. But that's not what we see.
Listen I'm not anti 2A at all...I SAID I AGREE with everyone. Every citizen should have the right to carry anywhere. I am no better than anyone here. All I was trying to say is that the politicians and govt gave LEOs the right to carry anywhere because of there job. I'm not making any excuses for anyone or saying where better than anyone. If you really don't agree with LEOSA sorry... I don't agree with the welfare this state hands out but I can't change it. I write letters I call my elected officials weekly in support of 2A rights, I'm a member of the NRA. I personally don't carry out of ma unless I have a out of state LTC. My argument was solely based on the law saying cops can carry anywhere and if you think its wrong well then well agree to disagree. Unfortunately this country is torn on the issue of guns and I know 99% of the LEOs I know and work with are pro gun, want civilians to have every right allotted to them. I'm not against you in any way or form, just saying that I think leosa is a good thing and I hope someday everyone can carry nationwide without breaking any laws.
No single raindrop believes itself responsible for the flood.
And honestly dude, I don't include you in the "I hate pigs" speil. I've been around here long enough to get a feel for who's who and who stands for what.
But even for guys like Obie and you... You have chosen to participate in a system that is in many ways terminally corrupt. You've already decided that profiting personally from that system supercedes whatever moral discomfort the wrongs of the system may induce in you... So, how are the rest of us to know where you'll draw the line?
No single raindrop believes itself responsible for the flood.
And honestly dude, I don't include you in the "I hate pigs" speil. I've been around here long enough to get a feel for who's who and who stands for what.
But even for guys like Obie and you... You have chosen to participate in a system that is in many ways terminally corrupt. You've already decided that profiting personally from that system supercedes whatever moral discomfort the wrongs of the system may induce in you... So, how are the rest of us to know where you'll draw the line?
No single raindrop believes itself responsible for the flood.
Most cops have a like minded attitude as do you and others. The problem is, the small turds always outshine the vast majority.
Does the profession have its issues? Absolutely. But at the moment, I feel I can do far more by trying to change the system from the inside than outside of it.But even for guys like Obie and you... You have chosen to participate in a system that is in many ways terminally corrupt. You've already decided that profiting personally from that system supercedes whatever moral discomfort the wrongs of the system may induce in you... So, how are the rest of us to know where you'll draw the line?
I SAID I AGREE with everyone.
Cops may be "a cop 24/7" but you're just people too. At the end of the day everyone is looking out for number 1.
My sister got T-boned by an off-duty local cop a while back and he told the cops (same town) at the scene that my sister ran the red light, she was about to get a couple of huge tickets and placed at fault for the accident... thank god a couple of good samaritan witnesses stuck around and told the truth or she would have gotten F-ed by a lying a-hole who was going to get away with it because of the thin blue line/brotherhood type bullshit.