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Except they are not “their” matches, just held at Granby. You need not be a member to register and shoot match, and you are competing for a number of the limited match spots with non members.
this is a rather pointless statement - see above the PRS standings i posted.
6BR, 6GT, 6 Dasher, then 6BRX, 6 BRA - choose whatever you like. I really like my 6.5CM rifle, it is great. but i need a rather significant supply of reloder16 for my optimal loads there and i did not see it lately, nowhere at all - and it takes 41.8gr of R16 for my load there. 166 rounds from a pound of powder.
6 dasher is usually going at 32.5gr of varget (115gr bullet), and to load 6GT or Dasher i'd use same Varget i have stocked up and need for my .223 69gr loads - and having same powder for both would simplify the deal a ton.
shooting wise, again, it is all the same. no benefit at all. even barrel use wise - 6.5cm will wear really comparable to 6 dasher or 6 gt.
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Pointless to you maybe, and maybe to the original intent of this discussion. But it's been sidetracked with talking about custom 6mm cartridges. So, my post is saying when you take everything into consideration, inside of 600 yards, you can't beat the 6BR. Agree or disagree; but if you disagree, be prepared to tell me why.
groundscrapers
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Ridgeline, Alderbrook, sheepdog warrior, granby is going to be up soon, and there are some other private ranges for competition in NH in the north conway area. I don't really mess with sig ever.
groundscrapers
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they got the concrete benches back open and the resolution on the long range stuff was supposed to wrap up soon but covid was causing delays in the mass land courts.
groundscrapers
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Ill take this bet. 6br feeds like hot dog shit and is finnicky finding nodes to load to. 6gt is surpassed it.
life is way easier now. for most of 6mm calibers you can buy a good prepped brass with no need for fire-forming and trimming. one can just choose whatever the soul desires and just choot it.
it is an old chart, but still on topic more or less.
Dasher is easier to deal with, but i have read several times now its 40deg shoulder angle may cause issues, not sure for how much that is a real problem, as otherwise it would be my choice.
also an article on 6gt:
Sunday GunDay: New 6GT Cartridge Tested in 3 Tactical Rifles « Daily Bulletin
The New 6GT Cartridge for Precision Rifle Competition Report by Vu Pham Earlier this year I was ready to build a 6 Dasher when I saw a lot of buzz on the interwebs about a new caliber George Gardner (Owner of GA Precision) and Tom Jacobs (Owner of Vapor Trail Bullets) designed, the 6GT.
| Case | Capacity | 105 grain | 115 grain | SD (PRB numbers) | brass | notes |
| 6br | 39.5 | 2890 | 5.1 | Lap, Pet | ||
| 6bra | 40 | 2925 | 3.8 | Lap (fire form) | ||
| dasher | 41.6 | 2950 | 2835 | 5.2 | Alpha | shorter neck than BR |
| gt | 43.5 | 2900-3000 | 2880 | 1  | Alpha | |
| xc | 50.2 | 3049 | 2975 | 6.4 | Alpha, Peterson | |
| 6 creed | 51.9 | 3075 | 2995 | 6.5 | Lap, Alp, Pet |
How many and how far and what do you have to do to get on them?
First that comes to mind is sig probably a 6hr round trip.
I know theres a few more up that way but appears you need secret hand shake.
Fun stuff , you need a lot of free tine to play 1000 yard games
groundscrapers
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you need to join the regional prs league to get on most of em and you should have a rifle and dope that is reasonably close. They aren't going to have you shooting there if you aren't running gear that is going to get you on plates at that distance because they don't want people lobbing rounds and not knowing where they are going
Rockrivr1
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A couple years ago Granby did a beginners PRS event that I attended. It was a lot of fun and I learned a lot. They should do that again as it got a lot of shooters on the course and introduces the sport. There were some serious rifles and scope setups at that shoot
groundscrapers
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you can shoot gas gun at any of them. There is a gas gun and a tac division.
Okey Dokey then.
It feeds like dog shit? That's news to everybody who uses it with no problem in rapid fire strings and audio eat everybody's lunch at 600 yards with it.
Finicky to load for? Its the EASIEST cartridge to load for, with the possible exception of 308 and 223.
I know at least 2 World-class HP shooters in MA who have the money, know-how, and choice of gunsmith who have their choice of calibers they can use; and they use 6BR (in Tubb guns and Tube guns). Their reasoning: "you can't beat it inside of 600 yards".
Others may use 6XC, but that's only because they're using it at 1000 too.
I have one and it absolutely hammers.
But what do I know.
groundscrapers
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All the AICS mags require you to mess with feed lips, run spacers, modify followers, etc.... then because its a push feed it can jump up when feeding fast and miss the chamber causing you to run the projectile into the back edge of the barrel which can only be resolved with slow feeding or a CRF bolt. 6BR has massively fallen out of favor on the PRS side and been replaced with BRA, BRX, Dashers when given the opportunity to stick with the same case. GT does all of that but feeds better and is easier to do load development. F class dudes are still into it because f class dudes are old and weird and don't like new things lmao.
Well. I plan to build a 6BR rifle, but I have heard it takes a little effort to get them to feed.
Honestly, I think 243 would be hard to beat for 300 yards or less.
And to be extra side tracked... buy @Mudflap621 's Tikka 223 that he posted in the classifieds, that would be a great 200 yards or less rifle.
Honestly, I think 243 would be hard to beat for 300 yards or less.
And to be extra side tracked... buy @Mudflap621 's Tikka 223 that he posted in the classifieds, that would be a great 200 yards or less rifle.
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Sorry I’m late didn’t know this was a 6BRA thread. She runs beautiful with AW mags too.
Thanks for the press LuvDog, I’ll regret it. The Tikka is a hammer and she’ll go well beyond 2 hundo. I shot it in our local matches last year out to 450 very successfully.
Thanks for the press LuvDog, I’ll regret it. The Tikka is a hammer and she’ll go well beyond 2 hundo. I shot it in our local matches last year out to 450 very successfully.
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Have had a couple of their chassis but haven't played with one of their complete rifles. They seem to get pretty good reviews from the folks over on SH.I see all ignored my post on MPA BA PMR Pro Rifle II - no love for MPA?
fshalor
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I got to shoot a pair of Rugers in .308 and 6.5 with the same scope side by side.
Honestly, I'd pick the 6.5 unless I had a pile of .308 behind me.
Also, I'd pick .308 if I had a ton of other .308s.
Ballistics are wonderful with 6.5 creed, but 308 is nothing to be ashamed about.
Tallahassee
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Want to come by and organize my shop? Very nice.Sorry I’m late didn’t know this was a 6BRA thread. She runs beautiful with AW mags too.
Thanks for the press LuvDog, I’ll regret it. The Tikka is a hammer and she’ll go well beyond 2 hundo. I shot it in our local matches last year out to 450 very successfully.
I see all ignored my post on MPA BA PMR Pro Rifle II - no love for MPA?
I have several MPA chassis
Honestly I hadn’t looked at it because I just assumed it would be stupidly priced, but it’s actually not a bad price. It would cost you just as much and possibly more to source those parts yourself.
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How do you like the Fusion action? How does it compare with other custom actions?Sorry I’m late didn’t know this was a 6BRA thread. She runs beautiful with AW mags too.
Thanks for the press LuvDog, I’ll regret it. The Tikka is a hammer and she’ll go well beyond 2 hundo. I shot it in our local matches last year out to 450 very successfully.
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So far I love it. I can only compare it to the Origin and TL3 and although they are nice the LP wins hands down IMO. It’s smoother and way harder to bind up than the Bighorns.
My buddy should have an Impact here shortly I’m eager to play with it as I was stuck between the Impact,LP, and Terminus.
I would vote for the .308. Sometimes cartridges become like fashion statements. They come and go.... .40 was the bee's knees for a while and you were a fool if you didn't own at least a few. Now it's considered junk.. How about the 300 blackout... Is that even still around for anything other than full-on assRape prices with scarce availability? Cartridges come and go... But some will be timeless... The .308 is one of those IMHO.... Along with the 30-30 and 30-06, 5.56/223.... Can't go wrong brotato...
I keep reading about actions but cannot find much info if current batch of Curtis axiom the mpa puts there is with any issues or not. Like in link below some folks do not seem to like Curtis much.
From other perspective it is a production prs class ready rig, and probably well above my current skill level. Hmm
Bighorn Origin or Curtis Axiom?
Besides the obvious of two lug vs 3 lug does anyone think one is clearly better? Curtis is running a COVID19 sale is why I’m considering picking up an Axiom. I like the Savage barrel options for the Bighorns but see that there are now prefits available for the Axiom as well.
www.snipershide.com
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Bighorn origin and proof prefit than stock/chassis of your choice is hard to beat for the money. Front Range Precision will cut you a great deal on the stuff.I keep reading about actions but cannot find much info if current batch of Curtis axiom the mpa puts there is with any issues or not. Like in link below some folks do not seem to like Curtis much.
From other perspective it is a production prs class ready rig, and probably well above my current skill level. Hmm
Bighorn Origin or Curtis Axiom?
Besides the obvious of two lug vs 3 lug does anyone think one is clearly better? Curtis is running a COVID19 sale is why I’m considering picking up an Axiom. I like the Savage barrel options for the Bighorns but see that there are now prefits available for the Axiom as well.
My father has ordered three Bighorn actions from him and a few barrels as well and his Proof 6.5 prefit is shooting one hole groups and we haven’t even done any load workup on it.