So I've been lurking for a bit but thought I'd post. Now this argument has probably been used by those far more adept in the Bill of Rights than myself, though I think I held my own pretty well as his only response was "I'm not speaking to you for the rest of the day."
First let me say, I like this guy. He's a good sport and we can have lively debates without too much friction.
His lefty-liberal argument.
Ban and all semi-automatic weapons (at a Federal Level). Pistols, rifles, plinkers....ALL
Ban all Rifles, even bolt action
Ban all handguns (yeah even the single shot ones and 22 target pistols)
Under his rule of law, we can all still keep our semi-automatic shotguns (3 round limit) or double barrels. This seems to be a bit of a conflict in relation to his other mandates, but whatever.
Oh and under his mandate, we would need to either voluntarily surrender these weapons of mass destruction or face severe penalties (he mentioned tongue and cheek..you lose a hand if you don't surrender).
My response was pretty simple:
Since the Second Amendment is in the Bill of Rights, the only way this could possibly happen as quickly as he would like, would be for President Trump (AKA the Devil to him) to declare martial law. The military would basically need to engage all law abiding citizens like myself to take our guns and place them into the cache of said devil President Trump. I also explained that by abolishing the Bill of Rights, he would not longer have the right to free speech and I'm sure his 1st amendment protected utterances about the Evil Demon President Trump would be scrutinized heavily....Also 4th amendment search and seizure and other critical pieces would be nullified as well. So since weed is illegal at a Federal level, well he better find some good hiding places.
Somehow, I think that this extreme scenario may have clicked on him exactly why we we need the Second Amendment...to keep oppressive governments (Trump as a dictator was especially scary to him) from taking over with no possible resistance from its citizenry.
I say this because he had absolutely no retort...other than to not talk to me for the rest of the day which was okay with me...I was tired of being asked why I would need an AR-15 to hunt with, even though in MA I can pretty-much only hunt coyotes with them (shotgun and musket only for deer hunting) and I hear that they really aren't great eating anyway!
Anyway, I've seen so many posts go incredibly sideways, so I implore you to be gentle with me on my first thread.
First let me say, I like this guy. He's a good sport and we can have lively debates without too much friction.
His lefty-liberal argument.
Ban and all semi-automatic weapons (at a Federal Level). Pistols, rifles, plinkers....ALL
Ban all Rifles, even bolt action
Ban all handguns (yeah even the single shot ones and 22 target pistols)
Under his rule of law, we can all still keep our semi-automatic shotguns (3 round limit) or double barrels. This seems to be a bit of a conflict in relation to his other mandates, but whatever.
Oh and under his mandate, we would need to either voluntarily surrender these weapons of mass destruction or face severe penalties (he mentioned tongue and cheek..you lose a hand if you don't surrender).
My response was pretty simple:
Since the Second Amendment is in the Bill of Rights, the only way this could possibly happen as quickly as he would like, would be for President Trump (AKA the Devil to him) to declare martial law. The military would basically need to engage all law abiding citizens like myself to take our guns and place them into the cache of said devil President Trump. I also explained that by abolishing the Bill of Rights, he would not longer have the right to free speech and I'm sure his 1st amendment protected utterances about the Evil Demon President Trump would be scrutinized heavily....Also 4th amendment search and seizure and other critical pieces would be nullified as well. So since weed is illegal at a Federal level, well he better find some good hiding places.
Somehow, I think that this extreme scenario may have clicked on him exactly why we we need the Second Amendment...to keep oppressive governments (Trump as a dictator was especially scary to him) from taking over with no possible resistance from its citizenry.
I say this because he had absolutely no retort...other than to not talk to me for the rest of the day which was okay with me...I was tired of being asked why I would need an AR-15 to hunt with, even though in MA I can pretty-much only hunt coyotes with them (shotgun and musket only for deer hunting) and I hear that they really aren't great eating anyway!
Anyway, I've seen so many posts go incredibly sideways, so I implore you to be gentle with me on my first thread.