Would this bottle opener make you a felon?

[bandaid bandit]

The also jacked people up over those "key rings" that were i think full auto sears right?

Yes

Forgot about those, but weren't they wall hangars?

I thought they hung on the wall but were advertised as key holders

portable wall hangers. 3D printed to resemble an auto sear, and had a bracket to hook onto the wall.

My buddy bought one drunk one night. Doesn't even own a gun.

So far he and his dogs are alive but when the ATF moves on the seller he better hope the seller destroyed records. IIRC wall hangers were for sale for a while, then the ATF grabbed him and all his records. No idea if they started rounding up owners though.

It was the FBI, and they had/are combing through the sellers PayPal customer list.

 

[pastera]

Why would you buy one of these
You need to cut them out so you obviously have the tools. So just print out the picture, glue to sheet metal and have at it with a dremel.

For the "coat hooks" - I won't even search for the design because I have a printer. But I don't think it would take a huge amount of work to design one. FFS, I could probably come up with a drop in select fire trigger if I wanted to invest a hundred hours in the design (not doing that because my car is cloud based - don't need a long prison sentence)

 

[Nick Leduc]

I definitely think auto key card will get jammed up. I don't know if they are just printed or of their laser etched. If I was to take a silver sharpie and mark my AR for a third hole I don't think I'm in violation. if I was to take a punch and dimple it that's a different story.

At about 2:30 you can see that his fingernail get caught up on the impression from the printing.

 

[groundscrapers]

At about 2:30 you can see that his fingernail get caught up on the impression from the printing.

 

[mu2bdriver]

I'm sorry to be late to the realization that this was out there. Ever person on every gun board across the country should have bought at least one of these. I'm surprised to see how governable people on here are willing to be. I thought the implied motto of 2021 going forward was to be as ungovernable as possible.

 

[groundscrapers]

I'm sorry to be late to the realization that this was out there. Ever person on every gun board across the country should have bought at least one of these. I'm surprised to see how governable people on here are willing to be. I thought the implied motto of 2021 going forward was to be as ungovernable as possible.

why bother? I could build a better mg with an FA FCG. The reason most people don't want to mess with these is its high risk with little reward. ATF will eventually declare them to be a MG, confiscate the sales records from the company and come to your house telling you to produce it. Theoretically they could come with a warrant and search your house if they wanted to do so. So at this point what are you really gaining? Buy a FA FCG/low shelf lower and keep it for a rainy day if you care to do so and no legal concerns to speak of.

 

[Spartan65]

why bother? I could build a better mg with an FA FCG. The reason most people don't want to mess with these is its high risk with little reward. ATF will eventually declare them to be a MG, confiscate the sales records from the company and come to your house telling you to produce it. Theoretically they could come with a warrant and search your house if they wanted to do so. So at this point what are you really gaining? Buy a FA FCG/low shelf lower and keep it for a rainy day if you care to do so and no legal concerns to speak of.

I highly doubt they are going to come knock on doors over this. They jammed this kid up to make an example and to keep people afraid. Just as your post suggests.

 

[mu2bdriver]

why bother? I could build a better mg with an FA FCG. The reason most people don't want to mess with these is its high risk with little reward. ATF will eventually declare them to be a MG, confiscate the sales records from the company and come to your house telling you to produce it. Theoretically they could come with a warrant and search your house if they wanted to do so. So at this point what are you really gaining? Buy a FA FCG/low shelf lower and keep it for a rainy day if you care to do so and no legal concerns to speak of.

I understand what you're saying, but it's a finger to the eye of these f***ers. Multiply it by a million fingers. If you think that you're FA FCG on it's shelf and related items are going to be exempt from the agency creep of whatever they determine to be constructive possession or whatever bullshit logic they want to use, please be careful. ATF will eventually declare anything to be opposite of what it was declared before so why are we bothering to play their game. Be ungovernable.

 

[MGnoob]

It’s three links and three paddles but you need different size paddles to make it function reliably. I mean it would be impossible to just put some JB Weld on it right?

My opinion would be as you could have it as a repair kit if you already on the lightning link. But its not even worth your time.

 

[groundscrapers]

I highly doubt they are going to come knock on doors over this. They jammed this kid up to make an example and to keep people afraid. Just as your post suggests.

Than you aren't familiar with the whole DNA guns debacle. They made keychains that were incomplete glock selectors and sent them out, atf said they were mg's and raided their place but they had no specific info on which items went to which person sp they took the entire shipping records for items under 2or 3 oz. They sent a list to local field offices and sent agents out to collect those items. All of this happened late 2019.

the did the same with the JNC plates.

They WILL come and collect them.

 

[groundscrapers]

I understand what you're saying, but it's a finger to the eye of these f***ers. Multiply it by a million fingers. If you think that you're FA FCG on it's shelf and related items are going to be exempt from the agency creep of whatever they determine to be constructive possession or whatever bullshit logic they want to use, please be careful. ATF will eventually declare anything to be opposite of what it was declared before so why are we bothering to play their game. Be ungovernable.

My mill and lathe achieve the same. You can lawfully own any of those FCG's because plenty of folks have m16's that need maintenance not to mention the postie crowd that keeps em busy.

 

[01906]

From this article it looks like they're going to start tracking them down. It also says people will be prosecuted. It might just be scare tactics to try to get people to come forward. Although it also says it doesn't guarantee amnesty if you do.

Autokeycard.com Seized By ATF, Owner Arrested For Selling A Drawing

The ATF raided and arrested Kristopher Justin Ervin, 41, for manufacturing machine guns. Ervin did not sell or make any firearms.

www.ammoland.com

 

[Spartan65]

From this article it looks like they're going to start tracking them down. It also says people will be prosecuted. It might just be scare tactics to try to get people to come forward. Although it also says it doesn't guarantee amnesty if you do.

Autokeycard.com Seized By ATF, Owner Arrested For Selling A Drawing

The ATF raided and arrested Kristopher Justin Ervin, 41, for manufacturing machine guns. Ervin did not sell or make any firearms.

www.ammoland.com

Scare tactics.

 

[Reptile]

This is very similar to a legendary child porn case I once heard of...

Adult man had a legal porn magazine. Example: Playboy that as far I as know only has 18+ models.

He also had a SEARS catalog from the old days.

In the SEARS catalog he cut out the pictures of the heads of child models.

He then taped the child heads onto the adult models from Playboy.

He was convicted of creating and possessing child pornography.

I always think of that case because it can evolve further...

How about some pornographic stick figures of questionable stature?


This guy needs a fund raiser!!!

How about an image of his auto key on a T-Shirt?

Stickers???

Would that be illegal?

Years ago, a hacker group posted the code for DECESS(?) - it was the illegal computer code to decode DVD's.
They put it on a T-Shirt.

Anyway - this guy and his crew is going to prison for a long time.

 

[CATI]

This guy needs a fund raiser!!!

100% every platform will shut down/steal any money collected for him once they are made aware of the charges and the ATF will probably be the ones to inform them

 

[paul73]

Scare tactics.

A mass hanging to be conducted a day after tomorrow. Every citizen is mandatory to attend, bring your own rope.

A world is exactly what you let it to be.

 

[Mesatchornug]

This is very similar to a legendary child porn case I once heard of...

Adult man had a legal porn magazine. Example: Playboy that as far I as know only has 18+ models.

He also had a SEARS catalog from the old days.

In the SEARS catalog he cut out the pictures of the heads of child models.

He then taped the child heads onto the adult models from Playboy.

He was convicted of creating and possessing child pornography.

I always think of that case because it can evolve further...

How about some pornographic stick figures of questionable stature?


This guy needs a fund raiser!!!

How about an image of his auto key on a T-Shirt?

Stickers???

Would that be illegal?

Years ago, a hacker group posted the code for DECESS(?) - it was the illegal computer code to decode DVD's.
They put it on a T-Shirt.

Anyway - this guy and his crew is going to prison for a long time.

I'm pretty sure the case you're thinking of was an attorney who used digital means to create the examples.

Ohio attorney creates fake child porn for case, now must pay $300,000

He altered pics of girls to be explicit in arguing against "overbroad" law.

arstechnica.com

 

[GML]

Better PM atilla just to be safe.

 

[Peicemaker]

This is very similar to a legendary child porn case I once heard of...

Adult man had a legal porn magazine. Example: Playboy that as far I as know only has 18+ models.

He also had a SEARS catalog from the old days.

In the SEARS catalog he cut out the pictures of the heads of child models.

He then taped the child heads onto the adult models from Playboy.

He was convicted of creating and possessing child pornography.

I always think of that case because it can evolve further...

How about some pornographic stick figures of questionable stature?

OOF. Talking about grasping at straws. That's weird and all, and creepy to boot, but that is NOT child porn. Just goes to show that if the Stasi wants to jam you up, they WILL find SOMETHING to jam you up with, no matter how ridiculous or fake it might be.