What is your "Long Range" Rifle Platform?

Yikes.
The general shooting public is kind of pathetic. It looks like too many rely on the perceived reputation of a certain firearm, or how cool they think it looks, instead of their ability to shoot a certain rifle to it's potential.

I think I've said it here or elsewhere; "accuracy" is really 3 factors.
1. The mechanical accuracy of the rifle: lock it down in a vise to remove all variables.
2. A barrel wants ammo that it likes.
3. Once the first 2 are taken care of, the person behind the trigger needs to allow the rifle to fire with minimal input from the shooter.

And maybe
4. Atmospheric conditions

Yeah 25mph gusts do make things fun.

Pat, you ever make it to Camp Ethan Allen? Always fun when you are at 600 yards and every wind flag you can see is stiffly pointing in a different direction. 🤪
 
Pat, you ever make it to Camp Ethan Allen? Always fun when you are at 600 yards and every wind flag you can see is stiffly pointing in a different direction. 🤪
I used to go every year. We had a crew of a dozen or more guys from ME go over for the Memorial Day weekend matches. I haven't been for 10 years or more.

Edit: I just looked up in my old match results, and 2016 was the last time I shot there.
 
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I know this thread is not the classifieds, but if anyone wants a laser rangefinder and a kestrel for very reasonable money I'm looking to sell 2 items.

I bought a non ballistic computer Kestrel to force me to learn to do things manually.

These items have served their purposes and I'm ready to buy a Kestrel 5700.

Here is a link to the ad.

 
Yikes.
The general shooting public is kind of pathetic. It looks like too many rely on the perceived reputation of a certain firearm, or how cool they think it looks, instead of their ability to shoot a certain rifle to it's potential.

I think I've said it here or elsewhere; "accuracy" is really 3 factors.
1. The mechanical accuracy of the rifle: lock it down in a vise to remove all variables.
2. A barrel wants ammo that it likes.
3. Once the first 2 are taken care of, the person behind the trigger needs to allow the rifle to fire with minimal input from the shooter.

And maybe
4. Atmospheric conditions

Behind every blade if grass will be a fat dude with a "zeroed" ruger american.
 
sickkkk. you're wrong handed?
Yes and no? Left eye dominant so long guns are lefty

very nice. what action is it for?
Technically it’s for an impact but I’m going to test fit my Vudoo. My Vudoo doesn’t balance well in my BA Comp. I’m going to load this up with tungsten to see if I can get it to settle a few inches in front of the magwell. Eventually I’ll put an impact in it
 
Yes and no? Left eye dominant so long guns are lefty


Technically it’s for an impact but I’m going to test fit my Vudoo. My Vudoo doesn’t balance well in my BA Comp. I’m going to load this up with tungsten to see if I can get it to settle a few inches in front of the magwell. Eventually I’ll put an impact in it

no doubt. I'm the same but I forced myself to learn to shoot rifle righty.
 
"Long Range" is just an idea or opinion.

For some guys it's 500 meters, for others it's past 1000 yds.
I watch the Mile+ shoots these days and smile.
It's cool to see what marksmen/ markswoman can do with their rifles. Incidentally, spell check flags markswomen.

Out of all the modern production rifles I own, I think my 1874 Shiloh Sharps in 45-70 and my Pedersoli Gibbs float my boat the most.
The Gibbs is a muzzle loader.
It's not really a rifle according to the ATF.
It works well with about 100 grains of Swiss 1 1/2F and a 540 or so grain bullet at around 1200 FPS.
There's a whole long process involved in shooting it.
It's good to 1400 yards.

My Shiloh Sharps, with the MVA scope is a little easier as it's a cartridge rifle.
Load one, aim, fire, wipe and repeat.

Sometimes guys ask me about black powder.
I let them shoot my old rifles.

It's funny 'cause mid range trajectory is around 90 feet with a 540 grain bullet.
Not quite like a 6.5 Creedmoor or a 6.5X47 Lapua.

Paper never lies.

Just what floats my boat.
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Drgrant will tell me how I'm wrong.
 
"Long Range" is just an idea or opinion.

For some guys it's 500 meters, for others it's past 1000 yds.


Paper never lies.

I edited your reply down to just a few sentences (I hope that is OK with you), because they are of the most importance when it comes to discussing this topic.
Especially "paper never lies".
More shooters need to take themselves out of their comfort zone. Compete. Put yourselves on record in a sanctioned match. We all think we're pretty good,.....until we shoot against somebody who REALLY knows how to shoot. It's humbling. It's hard on the ego.
From there, the new shooter goes one of two ways: they either "don't do that again" because it's too hard to admit you're not as good as you thought, OR they tell themselves that they'd like to be as good, or better, than that 16 year old girl that just kicked their ass. They'll go to the next match, ask questions, ask for help, and improve themselves.
 
From there, the new shooter goes one of two ways: they either "don't do that again" because it's too hard to admit you're not as good as you thought, OR they tell themselves that they'd like to be as good, or better, than that 16 year old girl that just kicked their ass. They'll go to the next match, ask questions, ask for help, and improve themselves.
There is a 3rd way
your two ways assume the new shooter did not do well
Maybe this hypothetical new shooter is actually good, maybe they did well or even won the match.
 
That's my gun , different scope. 22" criterion barrel , 6.5 creedmoor.
This ones got a 26" Kreiger, 1 in 7.7, .223. Was originally built by Al Turner of Turner Enterprises out of Texas. Was originally "an across the course" rifle for 200, 300, 600 yds. I changed the stock, handguard and sights. Just gonna get into bench and prone with it. Will see how far it takes me......
 
There is a 3rd way
your two ways assume the new shooter did not do well
Maybe this hypothetical new shooter is actually good, maybe they did well or even won the match.
I suppose. In my experience, that would be a very rare occurance. Not to say it doesn't happen, but rare enough to not warrant mentioning.
 
So, I am in a group chat with a few good friends. Some of them are or were members here. One of them owns a FN precision rifle (aka FBI rifle). I have been pestering him for literally years to sell it to me, because I don’t have a bolt gun. Now, mind you, this guy knows his shit (has some of the nicest gear I’ve ever seen owned by a civilian), and of course, he’s been telling me to pound sand (because he’s not a retard)
Now, one of those brothers from another mother offered me a REM 700 with a varmint profile barre. I’m not a huge Remington fan, but sold as a package with excellent goodies, he called for a price I could not pass on. Badger ordnance scope base, Harris bipod, Vortex precision rings (NOT the cheap shyte they put out).
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I call it my new project rifle. The stock has to go. I knew that before I bought it. So does the trigger (not a fan of single stage). I’ve made a decision on the stock: KRG Bravo. Manners and McMillan make great stocks, but by the time I’d have them configured the way I want them, the bedding, and in letting, the DBM etc, they are both cost prohibitive. My hard requirements for the stock were :
- drop box mag (preferably AICS or even better, AW)
- no skeleton rear stock

- no AR style pistol grip
- mini chassis
- Arca Swiss
The Bravo is the only chassis I can come up with that has everything I really want without having my credit card implode on impact.
I want a 2 stage, predictable trigger. On my wish list: 1lbs 1st stage and 2.5 lbs second stage, adjustable would be my preference. If you guys have experience with something like that, let me know what it is and how you like it. Thanks in advance.
 
So, I am in a group chat with a few good friends. Some of them are or were members here. One of them owns a FN precision rifle (aka FBI rifle). I have been pestering him for literally years to sell it to me, because I don’t have a bolt gun. Now, mind you, this guy knows his shit (has some of the nicest gear I’ve ever seen owned by a civilian), and of course, he’s been telling me to pound sand (because he’s not a retard)
Now, one of those brothers from another mother offered me a REM 700 with a varmint profile barre. I’m not a huge Remington fan, but sold as a package with excellent goodies, he called for a price I could not pass on. Badger ordnance scope base, Harris bipod, Vortex precision rings (NOT the cheap shyte they put out).
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I call it my new project rifle. The stock has to go. I knew that before I bought it. So does the trigger (not a fan of single stage). I’ve made a decision on the stock: KRG Bravo. Manners and McMillan make great stocks, but by the time I’d have them configured the way I want them, the bedding, and in letting, the DBM etc, they are both cost prohibitive. My hard requirements for the stock were :
- drop box mag (preferably AICS or even better, AW)
- no skeleton rear stock

- no AR style pistol grip
- mini chassis
- Arca Swiss
The Bravo is the only chassis I can come up with that has everything I really want without having my credit card implode on impact.
I want a 2 stage, predictable trigger. On my wish list: 1lbs 1st stage and 2.5 lbs second stage, adjustable would be my preference. If you guys have experience with something like that, let me know what it is and how you like it. Thanks in advance.
bix n andy tac sport pro 2stage.

you could get a manners with mini chassis if you wanted, which wouldn't require bedding, but it'd likely cost 4x the price of the bravo. probably better off with the bravo and putting the rest into glass. my 2 cents.
 
This ones got a 26" Kreiger, 1 in 7.7, .223. Was originally built by Al Turner of Turner Enterprises out of Texas. Was originally "an across the course" rifle for 200, 300, 600 yds. I changed the stock, handguard and sights. Just gonna get into bench and prone with it. Will see how far it takes me......
How many rounds are through that barrel? I haven't seen an Al Turner rifle in a long time.
7.7 is not optimal for heavy bullets. 7 twist is way better. And 6.5 leaves no room for doubt; all the way through 90 grainers.
 
A friend of mine has same rifle, also built by Al Turner, He's retired now. The barrel was designed by Kreiger in 7.7 specifically for 80 gr. bullets. Anything heavier, 85's and 90's need the faster twist barrels....
Yup. Like I said; I'd be interested in how many rounds are through that barrel. He's been retired now for a while, but he was building match rifle for 25 years or more. When was this one built? After 4-5000 rds on a Krieger, I'd be looking at a new barrel. 5000rds is 2 seasons, tops, for an active Highpower shooter (who this rifle was probably originally built for).
 
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