Weird Ammo...

[pipmaster1971]

I was out shopping for ammo the other day and came across some nasty looking stuff for handguns that I've never seen before (I'm new to this). I can't remember the name of it, and was pretty expensive.

It was for 40 S&W caliber, (although other calibers are probably available), for defensive purposes. The bullets were hollow-points except inside the hollow there were several small shot-gun type pellets. These pellets were held in place with what looked like a plastic or wax seal.

Has anyone any experience of the stuff? Is it any good for concealed carry or home defense purposes? Oh, and what's the stuff called?

 

[drgrant]

Kinda sounds like a Glaser Safety Slug, or a knockoff of it. By and
large, from a wound ballistics standpoint, most of them suck compared to a
JHP or a even regular FMJ/ball ammo when it comes to terminal performance.

Stick to the major brands.... Win Ranger, Speer Gold Dots, Rem Golden
Sabres.... Fed Tactical.... you should be able to find a loading in one of those
product lines that runs good in your gun. Corbon DPX isn't too bad either
but I hate the lack of variety they have in their offered loadings.


-Mike

 

[pipmaster1971]

Yup. That's the stuff. Thanks.

 

[Moderator]

FYI there is another type of ammo for what you just described with the exception of being used for safety purpose. Shot shells, I have seen them in sizes from .22lr up to .45lc. They are also referred to as snake loads, for obvious reasons. I actually carry "one" in the pipe when walking my dog on the power lines. The rest are HP's. There are rattlers in this part of the country.

Here is a pic of a .22mag shot shell.

 

[Ripach]

FYI there is another type of ammo for what you just described with the exception of being used for safety purpose. Shot shells, I have seen them in sizes from .22lr up to .45lc. They are also referred to as snake loads, for obvious reasons. I actually carry "one" in the pipe when walking my dog on the power lines. The rest are HP's. There are rattlers in this part of the country.

Here is a pic of a .22mag shot shell.

I have some CCI like that in 22LR, works great on med-large size rodents.

 

[vellnueve]

CCI shotshells are great for beehives.

 

[Len-2A Training]

CCI shotshells are great for beehives.

Oh, oh!

Now you are about to unleash the wrath of Reinbeau! MUCH WORSE than getting stung by the bees!

 

[Mr Weebles]

Wouldn't these screw up the rifling in a barrel?

 

[Thor67]

The CCI's plastic capsule breaks on the rifling (which seems dumb to me), but supposedly cleans out with a regular cleaning. I don't think it's the kind of thing where I'd want to shoot one of these, then a JHP.

WRT the Glasers, they're designed to have the pellets joined together as one unit, and act like a regular bullet in the barrel, that releases their energy/pellets upon penetrating the target.

The design is menat to give better energy displacement while significantly minimizing overpenetration (even over regular JHPs). So the theory goes.

I'd take a normal JHP anyday.

 

[vellnueve]

The CCIs definitely aren't designed for normal defensive use, but for pest control.

 

[Cross-X]

Glaser Safety Slugs may be el-stinko as a defensive round, but you should see how they obliterate gallon jugs of water! Great show!

 

[Pilgrim]

I've got some of those shot shells in .38 spl.

Haven't tried them yet. I'm saving them for a squirrel that is living in my barn.

 

[N.E. CHARTERS]

.45lc shot shells

.45lc shot shells

Could one use these in a .45 ACP revolver such as the S&W 25-2 that takes moon clips or .45 autorim?

45 Colt cartridges are still occasionally fired in .410 bore shotguns by U.S. farmers needing to kill a mule or horse humanely


wich then leads to the question could a .410 shotshell be loaded into the .45ACP revolver?


Out come the micrometers.

 

[WVBob]

Taurus makes a 5 shot that takes a .45LC and a .410. The one I shot kicked about the same with both .45 and .410. You do get a very open pattern with the .410.