They're YOUR Guns - GOA Alert Mailing

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Please excuse my rudeness folks for making this my first post. However, I feel it is extremely important and urgent. I will post a "howdy" shortly - thanks, Ken
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They're YOUR Guns - GOA Alert Mailing

I highly urge all members and guests to enroll in GOA's e-mailing list...http://gunowners.org/join-our-e-mail-list.htm

This is so incredibly important in these times. You can easily help yourself, your family, and the children of the future by joining the Gun Owner's of America action alert news letter.

Once you are established in the system the process is virtually automatic. I doesn't get any easier than this folks...REMEMBER...once lost we will NEVER regain these God given rights...it's up to YOU.

Here’s the most recent alert…(go to the link at the bottom…it’s EASY)

“Pork” Bailout Bill Could Ban Guns for Millions of Americans

“HR 1 is about more than just pork. Millions of gun owners stand to lose their gun rights without any due process.” Larry Pratt, GOA Executive Director

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

The Obama administration is putting a lot of pressure on Congress to slam through the most recent $800+ billion bailout package before anyone has an opportunity to read it.

The Obama administration intones that the details are unimportant. The only thing that matters is the “bigness.” And, by shipping a bill of nearly $900 billion (plus interest) to our children and grandchildren, the package is really, really big –- bigger, in fact, than the budget of our entire government for the first 170 years of our country’s existence.

But now that some of the details are finally starting to leak out of Washington, Gun Owners -– and a lot of other analysts -– are beginning to look at the fine print. And some of it is particularly scary.

Of particular concern to gun owners are sections 13101 through 13434 of HR 1, which would set up the infrastructure to computerize the medical records of ALL AMERICANS in a government-coordinated database.

True, the bill doesn’t mandate that the data will be in a giant computer under the Oval Office. But it does mandate that your medical records be reduced to a computerized form which is available to it in a second.

This it would do by establishing a National Coordinator for Health Information Technology –- tasked with, among other things, “providing information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care.”

It should be scary enough that a government bureaucrat is directed by statute to try to influence your doctor’s decisions with respect to your medical care.

But of even greater concern to gun owners is the fact that a government-coordinated database (which government can freely access) will now contain all records of government-provided and private psychiatric treatment -– including, in particular, the drugs which were prescribed.

Remember last year’s “NICS Improvement Act” otherwise known as the Veterans Disarmament Act? This law codified ATF’s attempts to make you a prohibited person on the basis of a government psychiatrist’s finding that you are a “danger” –- without a finding by any court. Well, roughly 150,000 battle-scarred veterans have already been unfairly stripped of their gun rights by the government.

But people who, as kids, were diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder... or seniors with Alzheimer’s... or police with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder... or people who are now theoretically covered by the new law... these people have, generally, not suffered the consequences of its sanctions YET. And the chief reason is that their records are not easily available to the government in a central, easily retrievable, computerized form.

The bailout bill would change all of that. It would push increasingly hard to force your private psychiatrist or government-sanctioned psychiatrist to turn over your psychiatric records to a massive database. This would be mandated immediately if your doctor does business with the government.

This would supposedly save Medicare money in connection with medical treatment. And, the sponsors insist, they would work very hard to protect your privacy.

But this turns the concept of “privacy” on its head. The privacy which is MOST important is privacy from the prying eyes of government –- not privacy of government data against the prying eyes of others. After all, many government data bases have been hacked in recent years, with mountains of information stolen.

So, once the government has access to these computerized psychiatric records, the stage will be set for using that database to take away the gun rights of those with Alzheimer’s, those with ADD, and those with PTSD.

ACTION: Write your two senators. Urge them to vote against the bailout bill (HR 1) until it is stripped of provisions which would turn your psychiatric records over to a central government-coordinated database against your will without you getting your day in court.

You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center to send your Senators the pre-written e-mail message below.

- Prewritten Letter -

Dear Senator:

I am particularly concerned about sections 13101 through 13434 of the new bailout bill (HR 1). These sections would set up the infrastructure to computerize the medical records of ALL AMERICANS in a government-coordinated database, including psychiatric records.

It is scary enough that a government bureaucrat is directed by statute to try to influence my doctor’s decisions with respect to my medical care.

But of even greater concern to gun owners is the fact that a government-coordinated database will now contain all records of government-provided and private psychiatric treatment.

Last year’s “NICS Improvement Act” codified ATF’s attempts to make a person a prohibited person on the basis of a government psychiatrist’s finding that he is a “danger” –- without a finding by any court. Well, roughly 150,000 battle-scarred veterans have already been unfairly stripped of their gun rights by the government.

Now, this new government-coordinated database threatens the gun rights of people who, as kids, were diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder... seniors with Alzheimer’s... police with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder... and many other law-abiding Americans.

Please vote against cloture on HR 1 until this provision is removed.

Sincerely,

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Take Care and Stay Safe,
Ken


NRA Member
Administrator Integrated Close Combat Forum


REMEMBER – What works for you may not, necessarily, work for me. Keep an open mind!
 
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Hmm, I just went and read the text of HR1 that they're referring to, and while you may or may not agree with the healthcare information technology infrastructure spending plan proposed in HR1, it has absolutely nothing to do with a government run database of every person's medical records. The proposal in the bill is, among other things, to create a government agency to help establish a single digital interchange format for healthcare providers to transfer health records between each other.

It does not create any additional legal right or technical ability for the government to inspect your medical records, and it even specifically calls out that the new agency will not have any authority to override HIPAA (which is a law which was enacted over ten years ago as a similar attempt to encourage the digital interchange of medical information, and includes tight controls on your medical privacy).

In other words, this plan gives the government no more tools to ban gun ownership than it already has, and I have to question whether somebody is pushing their own non-gun related agendas by attempting to scare gun owners. It may be a fine agenda, but this is a deceitful way to go about it.

True, the bill doesn’t mandate that the data will be in a giant computer under the Oval Office. But it does mandate that your medical records be reduced to a computerized form which is available to it in a second.

This statement right here is an admission that whoever wrote this alert knows they are lying, and their excuse for their lie that a computerized medical record will give big brother the ability to spy on us is simply ludditism.

This it would do by establishing a National Coordinator for Health Information Technology –- tasked with, among other things, “providing information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care.”

This statement is just outright disingenuous. They've quoted a tiny piece of the bill without giving context. If you read the surrounding text in the bill, the agency will not be tasked with providing medical guidance. It will be tasked with creating a digital information infrastructure which will allow healthcare professionals to better give each other medical guidance.

I've got more that I question in that alert, but I think I've made my point. Go read the text of the bill yourself before you swallow what some hysterical alert tells you. (Here is a copy of the bill)
 
If you think 2012 is the solution, then you have already lost. Something needs to be done in 2010 and it's none too soon to start.

You are right, we need to clear out all the ass-clowns in Congress 1st before there is no America left as I remember it.
 
How am I gonna sleep tonight. I have ADD and I'm on multiple medications. You guns wonder why I get so apocalyptic. There any way to contact my senators without plaster my personal info on a website I know nothing about.
 
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I dont give much credance to GOA.they blasted the NRA over the vets bill,and the NRA worked hard to contain it.they have about 600,000 supposedly members.they also are a hard core no compromise group that mainly looses.they were not involved in NO/Seattle? /Chicargo or San Francisco.[rolleyes]
 
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