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PSA: Honor your WTS deal too much to ask?
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btnh6668
NES Member
I definitely agree with what you are saying.
namedpipes
NES Member
If you strike a deal as a buyer but you get cold feet and back out, you should get negative feedback.
Likewise as a seller, if you strike a deal and cancel it for a better deal, you should get negative feedback.
Likewise as a seller, if you strike a deal and cancel it for a better deal, you should get negative feedback.
It was a nice thing to do, and I commend you for it. He might benefit from some fatherly advice, but that would not have occurred to me, to give it nor to suppose he might be receptive to it, either one. Hopefully the thread has taught him something, but if you weren’t brought up with “my word is my bond”, I’m kind of pessimistic that it will “compute” later.
Mtn_Guy
NES Member
Every day is a new day to be a better person… maybe the seller will take something away from this experience, or maybe this entire thread will be lost upon him.
Either way, I’m over it. Life is too short to sweat the details.
Either way, I’m over it. Life is too short to sweat the details.
Had a similar situation with an 'off list license to buy' NES'er. New pistol, we agreed on a price and a North Shore PU, as the day was approached I found he was ducking me, I had to hunt him down and he told me outright it was sold. Like me, He was a Veteran and I expected he would honor his word. Instead he sold himself out for a few dollars more.
Eff neg rep unless it's unusually egregious, he has to live with himself
Nick Fury
NES Member
Talk about a whole lot got air over a simple subject.
An agreement was reached and one of the parties later reneged.
Feedback of this failed transaction should be left.
Sadly saying “NES has spoken” doesn’t cut it but that’s an issue for another time…
An agreement was reached and one of the parties later reneged.
Feedback of this failed transaction should be left.
Sadly saying “NES has spoken” doesn’t cut it but that’s an issue for another time…
AHM
NES Member
That reminds me of the handicapped guy who called in to Handel on the Law
to ask for advice on how to stop handicapped visitors from parking in
his numbered assigned parking space at his apartment house.
The parking space that he paid rent for.
The parking space that was closest to the door, because he was handicapped.
The parking space that he had the landlord mark as "handicapped".
None of the brain trust on the entire radio show could figure out that
if he didn't want handicapped people trespassing on his private parking space,
he shouldn't virtue signal by festooning it with blue and white wheelchair symbols.
It's like hanging a pork chop from a tree in the back yard
as the counterweight on a Redneck Weather Rope,
and then bitching when your dog eats it.
If one wants to tell potential buyers that there's a deal pending,
but one doesn't want the moderators to delete your posting,
then maybe don't festoon one's post with a magical symbol
that the moderators interpret as "DELETE ME".
Write the English sentence,
"This deal has a sale pending - don't contact me".
If the moderators have a batch job grepping for that,
change it to Yodaese: "Upcoming on this deal a sale there is - contact me not".
If they spot that, change it to Church Latin or something.
I assume they're nuking SPF posts because they're fed up with
thoughtless sellers who clog the forums with dead deals.
And they must be really fed up to do that.
Storage keeps getting cheaper per bit,
so at some point that clean-up must be
to keep the NES user experience baby-fresh.
If you go back and scrupulously delete your posts when they're done,
maybe they'll respect your operating sellerness.
Unless they don't.
(Watch me catch discipline for inciting mutiny.
I'm sure I can't imagine the hair-tearing web cloggage that caused the mods
to waste time deleting obsolete posts.
But there oughta be an exception for a man of wealth and taste like @AFAR/PFAR,
who cares enough to clean up his own posts in the end
![[thumbsup]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/044.gif "Thumbs Up [thumbsup]")
).Clue: A contract is an agreement between parties to exchange things of value,
like guns and money.
No; this is about contracts whose parties virtually never try to enforce them.
Because it's almost never all that big of a deal.
If you agree to sell a guy Teddy Roosevelt's elephant gun,
and then back out of the deal because you got a better offer,
don't assume he can't get a court to force you to sell it.
Ironically, in a case like that, there may be less legal risk
from suing the seller for the gun. Because leaving negative reps
(or ripping them a new orifice in a thread) is grist for
an annoyance suit about "muh reputation".
![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
(Too late
![[shocked]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/007.gif "Shocked [shocked]")
).You know how this works -
it depends on whether she gives off white or black smoke.
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After posting this I just went over to one of the losers who i dealt with feedback and,
found a negative rating for the same thing he did to me.I should have given him a Neg.
at the time.
namedpipes
NES Member
Neg reps aren't about punishing the guilty party. They're about giving a heads up to others that the person might not be reliable
A toxic seller/buyer will have no trouble living with themselves, regardless of neg reps
This.
If the OP doesn't neg rep the seller, how's the next guy supposed to know the seller is prone to shit like this? The point of the feedback system is to inform potential buyers and sellers who don't know each other. Keeping valid information out of that system benefits no one.
Cap
NES Member
I'm not saying I'd be friends with the guy, nor would I attempt to do business with him again. I'm just saying I wouldn't cry about it to the NES brain trust.
Let's keep it in perspective here - the buyer was not harmed in any way, other than getting his feelings hurt. Neg rep (if you feel it necessary) and move on.
At least moralizing about a failed business deal is a diversion from the clown world sh&t we have to contend with. 10 years ago I had no idea it could get this bad, but a run-of-the-mill "seller did this to me" thread, which happens on every kind of forum I've ever been on, feels like a throwback to more normal times.
Nobody’s “crying.” Now it’s you who needs perspective.
OP has a firm grasp on his own options, his emotions, and the customs of the people who buy and sell on this site. He asked a clear question and achieved rapid consensus. Nobody here is clutching pearls. The discussion was largely well-reasoned, and took into account many things that you’re conveniently glossing over.
One wonders whether you read the entire thread…
Negative feedback with detail. That way if anyone, including myself, is looking to buy from the person we will have a sense of what we can expect. I've bought from folks with negative feedback. The feedback helped me to better understand how to close the deal with the person.
allen-1
NES Member
If neg reps meant anything - you'd have shut down your OnlyFans page eons ago.
That's mean.
@namedpipes's OnlyFans isn't that bad. I mean, sure, some of the early stuff is a bit rough, but still...
namedpipes
NES Member
You're just mad because I wouldn't give you the discount!
AHM
NES Member
I had something similar happen when I was trying to do a trade for a mini 14. Turns out a buddy of mine ended up striking a better deal to the mini 14 owner and ended up with it. He texted me a picture saying something along the lines of check out my new addition. After calling him we figured out it was the same guy.
Dick move IMO. Only neg rep I have ever given was for a guy that was a no show.
Dick move IMO. Only neg rep I have ever given was for a guy that was a no show.
if a grown man hasn’t learned the value of their word, I’m skeptical a passive forum feedback will accomplish much. Perhaps it alerts others. However I’ll tell you that I’ve done transactions with forum members who had negative feedback and they went fine. Half the time it’s the arm flapper (complainer) made assumptions on the deal or never truly committed to purchase. I’ve had people contact me with some passive interest, then I sell the item and they flip out. many interpret a mushy DM as a basis for laying claim.
Im not questioning the OP, but as usual we are hearing 1 side of every story so I draw zero conclusions. Further a dropped deal for the buyer is not a big deal. Whatever move on. It’s far more annoying for the seller.
when I lived in MA I did a shit ton of deals on NES. Most forum members are legit. A few suck. These #’s are unlikely to ever change. If you know how to buy/sell it will always work out in the end.
SHOCKNAWE
NES Member
It’s crazy to me that some adults still don’t know the difference between right and wrong, the bottom line is once an agreement is made it’s made and both parties should honor said agreement.
Feedback is a barometer on whether or not people want to waste their time dealing with someone, I mean a guy can have 99 positives and 1 nasty negative and it can still be a yellow light as far as I’m concerned.
Once you type “I’ll take it” or “We got a Deal” then that is as good as a handshake in my opinion
Feedback is a barometer on whether or not people want to waste their time dealing with someone, I mean a guy can have 99 positives and 1 nasty negative and it can still be a yellow light as far as I’m concerned.
Once you type “I’ll take it” or “We got a Deal” then that is as good as a handshake in my opinion
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