The same group which has protested service members funerals will apparently be trying to protest outside of Camp Lejeune which I don't think is a great idea.
http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html
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Protests at Camp Lejeune -God Hates the US Marines
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I disagree with you, Derek. I truly hope that they do protest after dark. I think it is very important that our Marines get proper training in hand-to-hand combat
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I disagree with you, Derek. I truly hope that they do protest after dark. I think it is very important that our Marines get proper training in hand-to-hand combat
From what (admittedly little) I have seen of these people, it would not be proper training against a competant enemy.
Actually their permit was denied. So basically they aren't allowed to be anywhere near, and was stated from another group, probably won't show at this point. We can hope.
I got that info last night from a group I belong to.
I got that info last night from a group I belong to.
All those scumbags care about is causing controversy. They want to get assaulted so they can sue:
(wikipedia with references)
"All the principals of the Phelps Chartered law firm [15], a firm founded by WBC founder Fred Phelps, are members of WBC. Phelps Chartered handles most of WBC's legal work and has received significant awards of attorney's fees from the Civil Rights Attorney's Fees Award Act of 1976 when WBC has been improperly prevented from picketing.[16]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_hates_fags
(wikipedia with references)
"All the principals of the Phelps Chartered law firm [15], a firm founded by WBC founder Fred Phelps, are members of WBC. Phelps Chartered handles most of WBC's legal work and has received significant awards of attorney's fees from the Civil Rights Attorney's Fees Award Act of 1976 when WBC has been improperly prevented from picketing.[16]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_hates_fags
Lee Ermey says 'god has a hard-on for Marines'. I think he knows best.
Was watching Apocalypse Now the other day and he's an uncredited chopper pilot. Never noticed it before but I hadn't seen the movie in years.
Was watching Apocalypse Now the other day and he's an uncredited chopper pilot. Never noticed it before but I hadn't seen the movie in years.
I just read a couple of their descriptions on the schedule. That is some WHACKED stuff they are shoveling out. I don't know who's got the smaller brain the people writing the stuff or the ones bilindly following the "prophecy"
I am surprised at this point that someone hasn't tried to kill
them, nevermind "assault".
I saw one video where they had been chased out of a place where
there was an event or something, and they all got herded into this
van and people started smashing the snot out of the windows and
such. If they didn't have a police escort they would have in
all likelihood been beaten to a pulp by the crowd.
-Mike
This is from a news letter I get from a group I belong to.
To All:
"CHECK FIRING" is a military term in the artillery for "cease fire"... collect your thoughts, check all firing data, and wait for further word...
After more checking by our people on the Westboro Baptist Church coming to town, we have found that they did in fact apply for a permit, but their 10 day waiver was denied. (The permit had to have a waiver because it was not done in time). The waiver was done and then denied legally so the city could not be sued over their 1st Amendment rights of "Freedom of Speech". If you read their web site, you will see that they get their money from law suits from suing when their "rights" are denied in an illegal manner. After they were denied, no other word from the WBC has been heard.
The Jacksonville PD is fully aware of the word spreading for this weekend. Since there was no approval for this action , there will be no approval for any kind of "gatherings". No other permits will be issued. The permit request they submitted was for Hargett Street and Hwy 24 across from the Veterans Cemetery.
We as Rolling Thunder, Inc. in Jacksonville have decided NOT to take up action and stand in defense this Saturday as Rolling Thunder, Inc. of NC. I believe the MOPH is also following our lead on this decision.
I have twice telephonically talked with the ISS (Installation Security and Safety) people to include the Asst Director, and Colonel Anderson and they have respectfully asked that we do not "counter protest".
There is a two fold reason for their decision...
1. They will not have permits. With no permits, they have no legal right to protest on or near the base. They will not be permitted to enter or be on gove rnment property should they decide to show up. If they do, they will be trespassing and will be detained by PMO and held for the City Police. Almost all of Hwy 24 leading to Lejeune on the south side belongs to the base. As you approach the base gates, all that land belongs to the base. Without permission of the base command, that is restricted FEDERAL PROPERTY. With no access to the base, they will only have a small strip of "median" in the road, and that is where the Jacksonville PD will come into play. Any hindrances whatsoever by anyone to impede the flow of traffic can be arrested and processed. In other words... no standing in the median!!!! No permit... no legal rights!
2. Col Anderson has asked that this thing be "played down" as the media has already made a huge deal over the Lauterbach incident. If it turns into a "media circus", this will only bring more light to Kansas Church, and that is what these fanatics want. If they are downplayed, and no one cares, they will dry up and go away. They have specifically asked Rolling Thunder not to be there. They respect us, and what we do, and because of that and after careful thought and cooling down from being called "Marine Corps Fags", I feel the decisions of the base officials should be respected and we should honor and trust that the base will handle these people.
We have worked hard to gain the respect and confidence of the Marine Corps Base and the officials of the local community. I agree with the Chapter members last night when they said, "Let's not jeopardize what we have for some stupid people who have no influence whatsoever in what our mission statement is; and let's do what we are suppose to do for Rolling Thunder ®, Inc. and the POW/MIA's. You can't fix stupid!!!"
We will respect the wi shes of Colonel Anderson and his ISS office, and the Jacksonville Police Department and trust them to handle the situation as they have said.
To All:
"CHECK FIRING" is a military term in the artillery for "cease fire"... collect your thoughts, check all firing data, and wait for further word...
After more checking by our people on the Westboro Baptist Church coming to town, we have found that they did in fact apply for a permit, but their 10 day waiver was denied. (The permit had to have a waiver because it was not done in time). The waiver was done and then denied legally so the city could not be sued over their 1st Amendment rights of "Freedom of Speech". If you read their web site, you will see that they get their money from law suits from suing when their "rights" are denied in an illegal manner. After they were denied, no other word from the WBC has been heard.
The Jacksonville PD is fully aware of the word spreading for this weekend. Since there was no approval for this action , there will be no approval for any kind of "gatherings". No other permits will be issued. The permit request they submitted was for Hargett Street and Hwy 24 across from the Veterans Cemetery.
We as Rolling Thunder, Inc. in Jacksonville have decided NOT to take up action and stand in defense this Saturday as Rolling Thunder, Inc. of NC. I believe the MOPH is also following our lead on this decision.
I have twice telephonically talked with the ISS (Installation Security and Safety) people to include the Asst Director, and Colonel Anderson and they have respectfully asked that we do not "counter protest".
There is a two fold reason for their decision...
1. They will not have permits. With no permits, they have no legal right to protest on or near the base. They will not be permitted to enter or be on gove rnment property should they decide to show up. If they do, they will be trespassing and will be detained by PMO and held for the City Police. Almost all of Hwy 24 leading to Lejeune on the south side belongs to the base. As you approach the base gates, all that land belongs to the base. Without permission of the base command, that is restricted FEDERAL PROPERTY. With no access to the base, they will only have a small strip of "median" in the road, and that is where the Jacksonville PD will come into play. Any hindrances whatsoever by anyone to impede the flow of traffic can be arrested and processed. In other words... no standing in the median!!!! No permit... no legal rights!
2. Col Anderson has asked that this thing be "played down" as the media has already made a huge deal over the Lauterbach incident. If it turns into a "media circus", this will only bring more light to Kansas Church, and that is what these fanatics want. If they are downplayed, and no one cares, they will dry up and go away. They have specifically asked Rolling Thunder not to be there. They respect us, and what we do, and because of that and after careful thought and cooling down from being called "Marine Corps Fags", I feel the decisions of the base officials should be respected and we should honor and trust that the base will handle these people.
We have worked hard to gain the respect and confidence of the Marine Corps Base and the officials of the local community. I agree with the Chapter members last night when they said, "Let's not jeopardize what we have for some stupid people who have no influence whatsoever in what our mission statement is; and let's do what we are suppose to do for Rolling Thunder ®, Inc. and the POW/MIA's. You can't fix stupid!!!"
We will respect the wi shes of Colonel Anderson and his ISS office, and the Jacksonville Police Department and trust them to handle the situation as they have said.
Yep; the voice gives him away. He's in Duval's chopper, IIRC.
Give me some 20 Mike Mike Vulcan along that tree line!
Best scene in a movie with quite a few of them. I saw it in Boston, just to get the killer sound system for that one scene.
Psycho
These people are nuts. They started gaining attention about 3 years ago by protesting Marines' and Soldiers' funerals. These are the extreme case of freedom of speech. Personally, I think they suck but if you ever heard one of their spokespeople......![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
The same group which has protested service members funerals will apparently be trying to protest outside of Camp Lejeune which I don't think is a great idea.
http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html
These people are nuts. They started gaining attention about 3 years ago by protesting Marines' and Soldiers' funerals. These are the extreme case of freedom of speech. Personally, I think they suck but if you ever heard one of their spokespeople......
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jasonj84
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These people are nuts. They started gaining attention about 3 years ago by protesting Marines' and Soldiers' funerals. These are the extreme case of freedom of speech. Personally, I think they suck but if you ever heard one of their spokespeople......
If it wasn't for all the seatbelt, helmet laws, and disclaimers on everything there wouldn't be enough dimwitted Aholes around for them to have any members.
jasonj84
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That's where I was stationed.The fellow snipers could use a few more targets!You can't sue if you have disappeared!![[smile]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/001.gif "Smile [smile]")
When were you at Lejeune? I was there from 92-94
A Co. 1/2
(wikipedia with references)
"Michael Moore organized a humorous counterprotest against the church for his TV Show The Awful Truth. He followed Phelps around the country in "the Sodomobile," a pink bus filled with homosexuals. They even, at one point, get to meet Fred Phelps and Moore introduces the Sodomobile to him.[63]
About the ONE time Michael Moore got something RIGHT.
(Of course, my low opinion of MM would make me say I wonder if he was one of the homosexuals, but I can't. I don't want to insult homosexuals, they've done nothing to me.)
If he ever figured out he was supporting the troops by harassing these BOZO's, he'd cringe.
Protest at the Marine Base
I am an active duty Marine & so is my wife. Neither of us would stand for this crap. Fred Phelps (the Westboro Baptist Church) and his folowers (his children) are all nuts. This guy is off of his rocker. And for him to think that he can tarnish / destroy the image of the U.S. Marine Corps is insane.
As a SNCO on I&I duty here in MA, I am tasked with handing the flag over to the departed's next of kin durring funeral services. This is something that is not taken lightly. So far I have only had to do the funerals of older men. I do not wish to burry a young Marine who has just fallen in combat. This duty would only be made more difficult by protestors at the site. If I thought for a second that Fred Phelps and his crew were going to show up, I would not be above calling the local veterans groups up VFW / American Legion.
SMITTY
I am an active duty Marine & so is my wife. Neither of us would stand for this crap. Fred Phelps (the Westboro Baptist Church) and his folowers (his children) are all nuts. This guy is off of his rocker. And for him to think that he can tarnish / destroy the image of the U.S. Marine Corps is insane.
As a SNCO on I&I duty here in MA, I am tasked with handing the flag over to the departed's next of kin durring funeral services. This is something that is not taken lightly. So far I have only had to do the funerals of older men. I do not wish to burry a young Marine who has just fallen in combat. This duty would only be made more difficult by protestors at the site. If I thought for a second that Fred Phelps and his crew were going to show up, I would not be above calling the local veterans groups up VFW / American Legion.
SMITTY
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Patriot Guard Riders are also awesome at shielding the loved ones from all of that. Also if you think it will happen let me know I can get some Vets together also.
Me either. I'd be trying not to cry.
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Smitty: If you think they are coming, call up the Patriot Guard riders. They are very experienced at effectively shutting down Phelps. http://www.patriotguard.org/
Being on Honor Guard is a pretty tough duty.
I did a few years as a member of the Firing Squad, we used M-14's instead of the M16's.
Toughest one I did was a friend (and coworker) of mine that died from cancer, and got medical retired a few months before his death. I was technically no longer on the Honor Guard at the time, but his unit did the funeral, and though I was in a different unit by then, they asked me anyways.
I did a few years as a member of the Firing Squad, we used M-14's instead of the M16's.
Toughest one I did was a friend (and coworker) of mine that died from cancer, and got medical retired a few months before his death. I was technically no longer on the Honor Guard at the time, but his unit did the funeral, and though I was in a different unit by then, they asked me anyways.
And don't forget to post something here. I'm damn sure there's a few of us who'd be willing to be shields. Although...I will admit...it would be tough for me not to hit one of them bastards...or two...or three...
Thank you all for the kind words!
And thank you all for the link to the organization. I had seen Fred Phelps and his crew on Showtime in a documentary. If we / I thought he was going to show I would tell somebody. I'm not allowed to make such a call due to my duty, but my wife would another story. I do speak to her about things and I'm sure she'd make a couple phone calls. Again I will keep the link in case it's ever needed.
As for this part of my job being sad,yes it kind of is, but it is my job and it's the last way the Marine Corps / the nation can show respect for somebody that served.
And thank you all for the link to the organization. I had seen Fred Phelps and his crew on Showtime in a documentary. If we / I thought he was going to show I would tell somebody. I'm not allowed to make such a call due to my duty, but my wife would another story. I do speak to her about things and I'm sure she'd make a couple phone calls. Again I will keep the link in case it's ever needed.
As for this part of my job being sad,yes it kind of is, but it is my job and it's the last way the Marine Corps / the nation can show respect for somebody that served.
Smitty hun - thank you for your service. I'm sure there's quite a few Marines that would rather fight Islamic fruitcakes than to do what you do, which makes what you do all the more special. Bless your heart.
