My gun my rules. I like this motto better.Cue the idiots saying "duhhh it's their business their rules hurr durr!"
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My gun my rules. I like this motto better.Cue the idiots saying "duhhh it's their business their rules hurr durr!"
It's your private residence were you live not a business. Besides if you hate firearms that much and know me why would you invite me over? You invite me into your Starbucks to buy a coffee and say no coffee if you carry then that's ok apparently. If I open a business and say no blacks allowed then my business will not be open for much longer. So yes civil rights apparently trump natural rights but they shouldn't. We've just allowed them to.
You really don't see the distinction between discrimination based on race and every other rule???
Back when I was a yowen, we went to Pier 4 for dinner. This is circa 1978 or so. As a gentleman, (which didn't include me - I was about 9) you were required to wear a jacket and a tie or you could not enter.
So what you're saying is. . . . my natural 1A freedom right to wear what I want (or nothing at all) trumps Pier 4's ability to block my admittance? At a privately owned establishment (like a house, or a restaurant. . . or a mall) can't violate my constitutional rights. Someone should have told them that way back when.
Look, I think the no-gun rule is stupid, but it's not against the Constitution. (What I do find fascinating is you can't carry in most municipal/state offices OR the P.O. Go figure that one!!). BOR is a limit on government, not business or persons.
I can't wait until someone screams "FREE SPEEEEEEEECHHH!!!" on NES and gets the ban-hammer. LOL. Should be teh same thing. Natural right of free speech. Why can't I say or do anything I want here. How about I post porn as an ad-on to every post??? I should be able to. NES shouldn't be able to stop me. It's my natural right!
Hey man I just try to stay away from cops and criminals because sometimes you can't tell which is which. Oh and my daddy never had a Camry....he wasn't gay.This exactly.
BUT I will say that I enjoy watching these people who are like @G Port and @Path-Finder on youtube when they drive in their daddy's camry and get pulled over and start claiming they "are sovereign citizens". That is truly entertaining. Their results are almost as good as the arguments made on this thread. Hint: There are legal limits to your liberty. The best you can do, is not support those who would actively pursue limiting it in the delusional thought that it makes gun free zones safer,
Hey man I just try to stay away from cops and criminals because sometimes you can't tell which is which. Oh and my daddy never had a Camry....he wasn't gay.
Better question...why would anyone go to the mall at all?Who would go to any mall unarmed in the first place?
Holy shit I may have found a new buddy who is as vulgar and immature as me.That's not what his boyfriend says.
Holy shit I may have found a new buddy who is as vulgar and immature as me.
This. No questions asked. Alrite fam this is over, keep your heads down and follow me right now to the nearest exit.All they can do is ask you to leave. Should have re-holstered and GTFO!!
"Man pulls concealed carry weapon in gun-free mall to defend family and bystanders during shooting"
FTFY.Great to see this story. Guy dideverythingnothing right.
^ This.Maybe the copsch were already on him before he could reholster and he had to bow down to keep from getting shot, who knows, but GTFO is always your first and best choice if possible.
Better question...why would anyone go to the mall at all?
Cue the idiots saying "duhhh it's their business their rules hurr durr!"
You're on a firearms forum dummy. Just so you know.
I should've said why would anyone go to A mall at allAnd where is it?
Ummmmm. . . . .
"Hey Pathy - wanna come over and watch TV tonight."
"Sure. But I'm bringing my gun."
"Yeah. You can't bring your gun. Stay home or leave it home."
"CONSTITUTION!!!!!! I'm calling Dan OingoBoingo!!!!"
Explain the difference between a person and a store denying you admittance and/or requiring certain conditions. BOR is a limit on government, not JC Penny.
"Man pulls concealed carry weapon in gun-free mall to defend family and bystanders during shooting"
Why didn't the family and bystanders defend themselves with their own guns?
Here's the original article:
'I never expected I would touch my gun': Dad pulls CCW gun to protect family in mall shooting
A metro area dad said the choice was easy to grab his concealed carry weapon and protect his family as gunfire erupted at the Westroads Mall Saturday.www.kcci.comGod grant me the wisdom to do the right thing in an emergency,
- Clears leather at the word of some panicked stranger that there's a shooting...
- ...runs through a mall waving a gun while people are desperately seeking shelter from a man with a gun...
- ...lets his family hide in a dead-end bathroom on advice of operating operator department store employees...
- ..."guards" the outside of the bathroom (in view of an attacker)...
- ...then abandons his family in the kill box to watch the closest escalator to "draw danger away" until...
- ...when police arrive, unilaterally finger-<bleep>s his semi-auto by unloading it "for safety"...
- ...invites The Man into his life by seeking out police (in a duty-to-inform state)...
- ...reholsters the gun with the slide locked back and gun showing, because police are reassured by that...
- ...waves his gun license at police contact to inform them that he has a gun and knows how to use it...
- ...runs his mouth to TV reporters about how he broke the law in a state with binding signage, because reasons...
- ...vows he will return to the mall, in a state where violating a gun-free zone twice is grounds for revocation.
but I would be embarrassed to do any of those things.
FTFY.
^ This.
Every time we're leaving the mall,
I kick myself for not working out a rendezvous plan ahead of time.
Do they not have Amazon in Nebraska... know where I'm not getting capped? In a mall shooting... know why because I get that shit deliveredWho would go to any mall unarmed in the first place?
Your depth of understanding is undeniable...you certainly let people know the depth of your knowledge. Good on you, mate!
it's not so much a depth of knowledge as the ability to interpret what I read. Of course, others interpret it differently, which is why we are here today. I interpret it broadly, progs interpret it narrowly to fit their agenda of increasing control as well as decreasing the power of the population.
"Shall not be infringed" seems pretty clear to me as well. As in not to be infringed by a senile half-tard, a gap toothed dyke, or some low level manager wearing a cheap blazer at your favorite superstore.
And lets look at civil rights, since you like the sound of those words. Why do the words "civil rights" these days usually refer to some court case involving a criminal, degenerate, or some other kind of reprobate. Civil rights seems to have become synonymous with forcing the warped agenda of some useless minority (not in the ethnic sense) upon the common sense of the majority. Civil Rights has become another meaningless leftist dog whistle. Like racist. Like homophobe.
If you think that refusing to bake a cake for a same sex couple is a violation of their civil rights, then don't you think that the ability to carry a firearm is perhaps even more of a civil right?
What if some punks decide to harass or assault the fudgepackers in Costco? Wouldn't it be better for them to be able to carry a Sig than have a nice penis shaped cake?
Is rounding up illegal scum a civil rights violation to you? How about when they kill Americans? Did the dead American lose his civil rights?
Is making sure people convicted of violent crimes live with a/c and weight rooms ensuring their civil rights? How about their victims? The rape victim living in fear? The dead man lying in the box?
So yeah lets dispense with the hypocrisy of establishing degrees of rights. You can enter a store if you are a skin color the owner doesn't like, if the store owner is allergic to your comfort dog, or if you have a Beretta tucked under your shirt.
Always mount a scratch egresser.If someone starts shooting in the middle of Walmart, ... I will be the guy quietly heading out the nearest exit -- of course, after I let someone else run through it to see if there is another shooter outside watching the exit.
Lol.....you thought it was a compliment. Hahahahaha.
Hey man I just try to stay away from cops and criminals because sometimes you can't tell which is which. Oh and my daddy never had a Camry....he wasn't gay.
Better question...why would anyone go to the mall at all?
A lot of that is fair. But I'll take exception to #3. I would bet that unless Perp needs to drop a deuce, you're going to be safest in that bathroom. Is it a dead-end? Yes. Is it a likely target in a very target-rich environment? No. Not in the least. Why go searching the potty for victims when the rest of the mall is full of them? The only time that would be bad is if it was a hostage situation. Like 20-30 armed terrorists taking over the mall."Man pulls concealed carry weapon in gun-free mall to defend family and bystanders during shooting"
Why didn't the family and bystanders defend themselves with their own guns?
Here's the original article:
'I never expected I would touch my gun': Dad pulls CCW gun to protect family in mall shooting
A metro area dad said the choice was easy to grab his concealed carry weapon and protect his family as gunfire erupted at the Westroads Mall Saturday.www.kcci.comGod grant me the wisdom to do the right thing in an emergency,
- Clears leather at the word of some panicked stranger that there's a shooting...
- ...runs through a mall waving a gun while people are desperately seeking shelter from a man with a gun...
- ...lets his family hide in a dead-end bathroom on advice of operating operator department store employees...
- ..."guards" the outside of the bathroom (in view of an attacker)...
- ...then abandons his family in the kill box to watch the closest escalator to "draw danger away" until...
- ...when police arrive, unilaterally finger-<bleep>s his semi-auto by unloading it "for safety"...
- ...invites The Man into his life by seeking out police (in a duty-to-inform state)...
- ...reholsters the gun with the slide locked back and gun showing, because police are reassured by that...
- ...waves his gun license at police contact to inform them that he has a gun and knows how to use it...
- ...runs his mouth to TV reporters about how he broke the law in a state with binding signage, because reasons...
- ...vows he will return to the mall, in a state where violating a gun-free zone twice is grounds for revocation.
but I would be embarrassed to do any of those things.
FTFY.
^ This.
Every time we're leaving the mall,
I kick myself for not working out a rendezvous plan ahead of time.
Crabtree Mall in Raleigh is a GFZ and is posted, but not at all entrances. The entrance by McCormick and Schmick's/Ruth's Chris is not posted as you walk into Belks from outside, so in effect, the mall leaves themselves wide open to carry in.I always carry at the mall despite gun buster signs on the main door. I out is finding an entrance that has no gun buster sign. The negates any possible citation. The law here requires that gun buster signs be "conspicuous." Without any sign, GBZ is not enforceable.
Costco and Waffle House claim to have a corporate gun buster policy. But they have zero GBZ signs on their locations.
...or a nightclub...Is it a likely target in a very target-rich environment? No. Not in the least. Why go searching the potty for victims when the rest of the mall is full of them? The only time that would be bad is if it was a hostage situation. Like 20-30 armed terrorists taking over the mall.