rosco61
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How so? Israel is the ONLY Democracy in the filthy Middle East so how you equate them to a terrorist State is beyond me.The same can be said about Israel IMHO
Is that NWORD with a hard -ERRR? lol.They are the Nword of the Middle East
Yeah there are bad factions in Palestine and they make it worse for the entire population , but the Israeli leaders like them there, it’s a vehicle to keep the money flowing from the US. However try living in what is in reality a giant refugee camp where another controls your fuel and electricity and how you can go to and from your own country. Never mind if you’re a Palestinian in Israel your treated pretty badly. Maybe if they didn’t keep expanding and pushing out Palestinians they would not make new enemies. On the other side the groups like Hamas etc are just there to play proxie and also get money from the US that is supposed to go to the people. It’s a terrible situation all aroundThis.
The various factions- Fatah, Hamas, and the PIJ or whatever it is now, want to kill Israelis and take their land. It's that simple. Millions of Arabs, about 1.7M, live and prosper within Israel. They can safely go about their daily business. Try doing that as a non-Palestinian in Palestinian controlled territory. Let's assume those factions were successful in wiping out Israelis. They would very soon turn on each other for control of Israel.
Go there and check it out before getting all warm and fuzzy about the Palestinians. I have heard first-hand accounts directly from the person getting the intel regarding PLO top leadership's plan to "kill them all".
Some people refer to the Palestinians as Sand NwordIs that NWORD with a hard -ERRR? lol.
If you watch the video from Prager U it explains how the British/UN/US/Jews/Israel have offered them Peace and land for their filthy country but they have rejected every offer. IMHO they can never settle for peace with Israel because it would contradict their narrative, just like the Murderous Mullahs in Tehran. They view the Jews as scum that needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth, they would do Hitler proud.Yeah there are bad factions in Palestine and they make it worse for the entire population , but the Israeli leaders like them there, it’s a vehicle to keep the money flowing from the US. However try living in what is in reality a giant refugee camp where another controls your fuel and electricity and how you can go to and from your own country. Never mind if you’re a Palestinian in Israel your treated pretty badly. Maybe if they didn’t keep expanding and pushing out Palestinians they would not make new enemies. On the other side the groups like Hamas etc are just there to play proxie and also get money from the US that is supposed to go to the people. It’s a terrible situation all around
Before Israel became our closest friend in the Middle East we didn't have any enemies there! Pleas spare me the democracy bullshit. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what's dinner.How so? Israel is the ONLY Democracy in the filthy Middle East so how you equate them to a terrorist State is beyond me.
I was much more sympathetic to their position before spending time in Israel. For sure there are innocent people stuck in the morass. Regarding Palestinians treated badly in Israel? Try being a non-Palestinian in territory controlled by them or even just an Arab area within Israel proper. It's not only dangerous you will be regarded with flagrant hostility.Yeah there are bad factions in Palestine and they make it worse for the entire population , but the Israeli leaders like them there, it’s a vehicle to keep the money flowing from the US. However try living in what is in reality a giant refugee camp where another controls your fuel and electricity and how you can go to and from your own country. Never mind if you’re a Palestinian in Israel your treated pretty badly. Maybe if they didn’t keep expanding and pushing out Palestinians they would not make new enemies. On the other side the groups like Hamas etc are just there to play proxie and also get money from the US that is supposed to go to the people. It’s a terrible situation all around
Negative, the only reason the Middle East is relevant is OIL, if they didn't have oil it would be a forgotten part of the World.Before Israel became our closest friend in the Middle East we didn't have any enemies there! Pleas spare me the democracy bullshit. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what's dinner.
Translated to Obama has signaled his support.The current pResident has signaled his support for the the Palestinians. In response, they have increased their attacks on Israel.
He's continuing the Obama Admin policies of sucking up to the filthy Palestinians because Barry is a Muslim sympathizer who hates the West.The current pResident has signaled his support for the the Palestinians. In response, they have increased their attacks on Israel.
Hardly.The same can be said about Israel IMHO
Oh, ok. That makes sense. Must be true.I know it’s the usual suspects. Maybe it’s how god wants it. Jews been getting shit on for a long time and all the ones I’ve met were good people.
You can Google the official Palestinians charter. It was written by Hamas and it very explicitly states that all Jews worldwide must be hunted down and killed. They really aren't trying to be subtle about it.Go there and check it out before getting all warm and fuzzy about the Palestinians. I have heard first-hand accounts directly from the person getting the intel regarding PLO top leadership's plan to "kill them all".
Short version:I know virtually nothing about that conflict.
therefore support of palestinian cause by local universities and politicians now and before was always very telling.You can Google the official Palestinians charter. It was written by Hamas and it very explicitly states that all Jews worldwide must be hunted down and killed.
We'll see how it goes on my trip this year. Trip before last they fired rockets to right where I was staying in Tel Aviv. Missed me by 6 hours so really not any kind of close call but that's what kind of F-heads they are to fire rockets into a densely populated city.therefore support of palestinian cause by local universities and politicians now and before was always very telling.
any hypocrisy has limits and when in an active combat zone - all what obama, carter, biden and rest of that scum does and says - well, it is all very transparent.
every visit of democrats to them ends up with acts of terror, always. an every influx of money brings in rockets and death.
go to cambridge and see them all there, parading around with their green banners. shame.
tel aviv is fine, my cousin lives there. wifes cousins live in territories - there it is a whole different ordeal. but even there, well, there is nothing to even think about.We'll see how it goes on my trip this year. Trip before last they fired rockets to right where I was staying in Tel Aviv. Missed me by 6 hours so really not any kind of close call but that's what kind of F-heads they are to fire rockets into a densely populated city.
That would be hamas not the avg PalestinianIf you watch the video from Prager U it explains how the British/UN/US/Jews/Israel have offered them Peace and land for their filthy country but they have rejected every offer. IMHO they can never settle for peace with Israel because it would contradict their narrative, just like the Murderous Mullahs in Tehran. They view the Jews as scum that needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth, they would do Hitler proud.
Been in both areas , and I’d say being Palestinian in Isreal or the occupied areas is pretty bad.I was much more sympathetic to their position before spending time in Israel. For sure there are innocent people stuck in the morass. Regarding Palestinians treated badly in Israel? Try being a non-Palestinian in territory controlled by them or even just an Arab area within Israel proper. It's not only dangerous you will be regarded with flagrant hostility.
I suppose in many cases it is much like here. Some integrated areas where everyone gets along, and some ghettos where outsiders are not welcome or are targeted.tel aviv is fine, my cousin lives there. wifes cousins live in territories - there it is a whole different ordeal. but even there, well, there is nothing to even think about.
life goes as it goes. militants is like a cartel that uses terror instead of drugs. they sell it non stop, to anyone who agrees to pay. of course, as world gets crazier and crazier every day - it may end up again as a small week long war, but, well, it is not anything new. and nothing to be afraid of in telaviv.
again, like, for people here all they see are pictures or coverage of screaming hasids and then pictures of stone throwing palestinians, and it makes an impression like it is a non-stop revolt there of sorts. and life, a real life is anything but that. life just goes on. you go to arab store, buy some stuff. say hello to neighbors. no hate, no problems, no drama.
"Electronic intifada" strikes me as a rather one-sided source. Besides, if they call the guy a "resitance fighter", he was basically a terrorist. Good riddance, the more the merrier.Also happening this week:
Israel kills teacher, resistance fighter in Jenin
Israel kills teacher, resistance fighter in Jenin
Jawad Baraqneh was trying to aid a wounded man, when he too was shot.electronicintifada.net
Another one-sided strongly anti-Israel source. From what I know about IDF rules of engagement, the snipers never "murder" anyone. They certainly kill people, who pose a threat and this make themselves a legitimate target. The rest is hysterical liberal propaganda.IDF Snipers Murder Palestinian Boys
IDF Snipers Murder Palestinian Boys – Tikun Olam תיקון עולם
Exposing secrets of the Israeli national security statewww.richardsilverstein.com
Electronic intifada again. One guy tried a stabbing attack and got killed. Another guy pointed a gun at the IDF specialist unit and met his demise. Why would anyone shed a tear for either of them?Israeli forces kill two Palestinians in West Bank
Israeli forces kill two Palestinians in West Bank
Teen holding fake gun fatally shot during punitive home demolition raid.electronicintifada.net
Electronic intifada again. The Arabs were preparing a terrorist attack in Israel. Apparently they sucked at OpSec, so the israelis raided their hideout and killed them.Israeli bloodbath in Jenin kills 9 Palestinians
Israeli bloodbath in Jenin kills 9 Palestinians
“Deadliest single Israeli operation in the West Bank since at least 2005,” says UN official.electronicintifada.net
Not trying to justify this attack but when one group gets attacked and children die - they often get revenge.
Our tax dollars are channeled to the families of the terrorists who murdered Israelis and American citizens. This is a disgrace.Remember, the Palestinian Authority still pays family members of "suicide Bombers" a stipend after their relative kills an Israeli Jew and WE fund them.
f***ing Dem/Leftist idiots.