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It adds the risk of being accidently shot so it's more exciting.What's the advantage for a hot range?
Yeah and If you find one let us know so I can be sure to skip it.I don’t know of any. I think you’ll have a VERY hard time finding a range.
With certain constraints I don't think it's inherently bad I just think what the OP is asking for is basically like a friggin unicorn....and it doesn't really add any value to the experience.Yeah and If you find one let us know so I can be sure to skip it.
NoneDoes anyone know of any practical pistol groups who run a hot range? Most IDPA groups seem to adhere to the cold range philosophy.
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Treating adults like adults is a good thing.What's the advantage for a hot range?
Is it to late for hello MauraDoes anyone know of any practical pistol groups who run a hot range? Most IDPA groups seem to adhere to the cold range philosophy.
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Unfortunately shooting sports are a lot like public schools. Instead of expecting responsibility, they cater to the lowest denominator.
Cold ranges are IMO stupid. Disarming yourself is both asinine and loading/unloading guns increases the risk of NDs. The less you handle your gun, the less likely it is to be fired.
Unfortunately shooting sports are a lot like public schools. Instead of expecting responsibility, they cater to the lowest denominator.
Cold ranges are IMO stupid. Disarming yourself is both asinine and loading/unloading guns increases the risk of NDs. The less you handle your gun, the less likely it is to be fired.
This argument makes zero sense.
In a cold range you are loading/unloading at the firing line facing downrange with zero people in front of you, there is very little risk of injury to someone else, flukes aside.
In a hot range situation some yahoo at the benches way back could be loading/unloading with all the rest of the squad standing in front them, loading and unloading exactly as many times as they would be at the firing line. If you think it's more likely to have an ND while reloading, which scenario do you want to be in as someone standing around waiting to shoot while the guy loading/unloading has an ND?
I think youre confusing hot range (loaded weapons) with allowing people to handle firearms. Keep the gun loaded in your holster. Thats what I'm talking about. You can still tell people not to handle their firearms off the line.
Where and how are people expected.to load their firearms?
At the line or at designated areas. I fail to see how this is complicated.
My understanding is a Cold Range means no firearms are loaded until at the firing line. Hot Range is Firearms are loaded prior to the firing line. As a Range Safety Officer and Match Director I believe no good can come from this. I only want to worry about one loaded gun at a time. There is no justification for it. It adds nothing to the event. Additionally, what about three gun? Are those rifles and shotguns going to be loaded and let shooters walk around with them
You say "practical pistol groups" then "IDPA groups". We assume you are referring to an officially run IDPA match, and others mentioned the other game USPSA.Does anyone know of any practical pistol groups who run a hot range? Most IDPA groups seem to adhere to the cold range philosophy.
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Does anyone know of any practical pistol groups who run a hot range? Most IDPA groups seem to adhere to the cold range philosophy.
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No. you are wrong hereBut the whole point of doing IDPA is to train for carrying a gun for defense
Yup. Every once in awhile I’ll meet people at an IDPA match that think it’s supposed to be real life defensive training and they need a reality check that it’s a game.No. you are wrong here
IDPA is a game
It sounds like you’ve had a lot of interesting defensive/tactical training which is awesome. And I think it’s great to get everyone involved in the shooting sports (women, LGBT, etc) but no one here is saying their against that so I’m not sure why that’s being brought up when you’re asking about hot ranges etc. People are giving you honest and good information here because it seems like you’re confusing practical shooting/games with tactical defensive training. USPSA/IDPA/Steel Challenge/Bowling pin matches are GAMES. I realize you may not like the responses here but no one is being dishonest or rude. You need to seek out more of these tactical defensive training classes that you’ve taken. The practical shooting games are not what you seek.Finally, there is something else I need to say.
I'm not a guy. The culture of the gun world has to change. In the past, gun owners have been crusty, old white dudes or macho young studs who pack globs of arrogance, attitude and testosterone-fueled posturing. They have no understanding of their own ignorance, and strut around like cock roosters trying to one up the guy standing next to them. They populate the shoots, the gun shops, and these forums, and anyone who is not studly, crusty or a true gun guy is driven away.
Well, times have changed, gentlemen. Women are the largest growing group of gun owners in the US. Minorities are getting involved. LBGT people are participating. The gun world is no longer the good old boys club, smoking cigars, and gabbing it up down at the guns and ammo store. Just because you don't understand something, or have no experience with something doesn't make it wrong. And it makes you look like an idiot to attack someone because they have different ideas. Maybe instead of shooting your mouths off, you should open your minds and listen for a change. This sort of arrogant attitude is what drives people away from guns and the shooting sports. Especially women, LGBT people and anyone who is not some grizzled, crusty, grouchy old white guy.