HR 45, very bad gun control bill in congress

[ASG]

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h45ih.txt.pdf

 

[Eta-Carinae]

text version
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h45ih.txt

 

[drumenigma]

I doubt that will go far.

 

[terraformer]

I didn't read the whole thing but this looks like political cannon fodder. It is a boldface unconstitutional law (not even considering the 2A here either) never meant to pass. If it was meant to pass, the whole BS about the interstate commerce crap wouldn't be there. The only way (besides constitutionally protected things) the federal government can regulate state laws effectively is tie funding and appropriations, or crap like the new RealID law where possessors of non compliant IDs can't board planes and trains, etc.

 

[clinotus]

I've been reading it...in some ways I hope they try to push it so we can push back with the shear unconstitutional aspects of the proposed bill. Its got everything in it. Commerce laws for Federal jurisdiction, Federal jurisdiction, violations by legal owners a year to the date it is signed making legal owners criminals who are then unable to own firearms, national registration, sodomy, just kidding on the last one but it feels like it.

This bill was introduced last time around as well, failed then, 0 sponsors to date.

 

[hikerlt]

they'll push this one as far as they can get even though it is doomed, just so that the one right behind it looks more "reasonable"....

 

[Sleepytime]

With Prez. Elect Anti-Gun NoBlamma, the bill might almost have a toe to stand on...

It's a 'feel good' bill.

 

[maee]

I didn't read the whole thing but this looks like political cannon fodder. It is a boldface unconstitutional law (not even considering the 2A here either) never meant to pass.

I hate to rain on your parade, but considering that it is a shall issue license and registration scheme, that portion would survive Heller scrutiny. As for the vague garbage about knowing if a child could access your guns, etc, that might get overturned. The Democrat's plan post-Heller, as in CA and MA, is to make gun ownership so legally limited and fraught with legal pitfalls, gotchas, frivolous requirements and arcane rules that they virtually extinguish the right without actually taking it away.

 

[wahsben]

I hate to rain on your parade, but considering that it is a shall issue license and registration scheme, that portion would survive Heller scrutiny. As for the vague garbage about knowing if a child could access your guns, etc, that might get overturned. The Democrat's plan post-Heller, as in CA and MA, is to make gun ownership so legally limited and fraught with legal pitfalls, gotchas, frivolous requirements and arcane rules that they virtually extinguish the right without actually taking it away.

This pretty much sums it up. They will try to pull every dirty trick in the book.

 

[terraformer]

I hate to rain on your parade, but considering that it is a shall issue license and registration scheme, that portion would survive Heller scrutiny. As for the vague garbage about knowing if a child could access your guns, etc, that might get overturned. The Democrat's plan post-Heller, as in CA and MA, is to make gun ownership so legally limited and fraught with legal pitfalls, gotchas, frivolous requirements and arcane rules that they virtually extinguish the right without actually taking it away.

Read the commerce clause of the constitution before you do your rain dance. In the meantime I will leave my umbrella at home.

 

[trophygrl]

this is scary.

where is the gun lobby opposition???

http://www.firearmscoalition.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=315&Itemid=63

 

[terraformer]

this is scary.

where is the gun lobby opposition???

http://www.firearmscoalition.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=315&Itemid=63

Not wasting their resources. This thing is DOA and purely political grandstanding in it's current form.

 

[trophygrl]

this is just all a little frightening, with the coming change in leadership.

i hope it doesn't go anywhere.

 

[M1911]

Dozens of such bills are submitted at the start of every legislation session. 99% of them are destined for the circular file, and will never even come up for a vote in committee, let alone get reported out of committee.

Folks, take a deep breath.

 

[MarkM]

No co-sponsors, same racist* marxist a**h*** from Illinois proposes the same bill at the start of every session of congress.

* Bobby Rush, "former" co-founder of the Illinois chapter of the Black Panther Party.