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H.R. 5005 and H.R. 5092

Discussion in 'Contact your Politician' started by cdkayak, Apr 20, 2006.

  1. cdkayak

    cdkayak

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    Just a heads up, stopthenra.com(brady bunch) is emailing people to cantact Reps to vote against these two bills. If you haven't already, take a look at the bills that have been proposed.

    H.R.5005

    H.R.5092

    NRA-ILA is urging people to contact their Representatives to support these bills.

    This is the email from stoptheNRA.com that was just forwarded to me:
    (it always pays to keep tabs on the enemy [smile] )
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  2. Nickle

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    The existence of those 2 bills is Prima Facie evidence of malfeasance by the BATFE in the past.

    I suggest a Class Action Lawsuit against the Brady Bunch for Treason and Loss of Civil Rights. They are bigots of the worst kind, by the NAACP will never admit it.
     
  3. drgrant

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    I like how the brady bunch LIES and basically says that these laws
    will prevent the ATF from putting the hammer down on FFLs... and we all
    know that that is certainly a crock. Any FFL with bad recordkeeping will
    still be subject to punishment.

    Getting rid of the multiple handgun thing is good.... that will eliminate some
    fishing expeditions by the ATF. (Lets think about this... can you think of
    a WEAKER form of probable cause to investigate someone than "Oh you
    bought three of these at once!" ?

    Oh, and heaven forbid, the ATF has to have a -real
    investigation- before they can go digging. I believe that standard has
    always been there more or less, but this just reinforces it. It just makes
    it so that you have to do something more than "merely exist" to be
    investigated. (eg a real crime has to be committed, not just "oh we
    think hes GOING to commit a crime with that" ). What the ATF was doing
    at the gunshows was basically like going into a car dealer as a police
    officer and auditing people that were buying cars, because you thought
    they were going to drive them while being intoxicated, because they were
    wearing a budweiser hat on the dealership's property.

    This part: "SEC. 5. ESTABLISHMENT OF FORMAL INVESTIGATIVE GUIDELINES." is useful but
    unfortunately we have the WRONG ag sitting in the chair at the moment. Gonzales is an anti... so
    of course he's going to grant them latitude. This would have been a lot better going in under
    Ashcroft... for as much as a fruitcake as he was, he generally appeared to support us.

    The only disturbing thing here is they only added an OIG investigation
    thread here..... how much you want to bet that the ATF "calms it down" for
    a year or two and then goes back to their old tricks after awhile? Without
    any sort of -permanent- oversight (or long term, at least) how can we be
    assured theyre just not going to put a tarp over the issue and then remove
    it when the "police police" leave? IMO anything less than a few BATFE
    types losing their jobs is unsatisfactory. At a minimum the richmond wanker
    who was threatening people should have lost his job.


    -Mike
     
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