peterk123
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Specifically the AR15 shooting 223, steel case and shooting 200 yards and out. Trying to hit within a few inches of the one inch dot. Braced. Will the ammo matter?
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Only one way to find out.Specifically the AR15 shooting 223, steel case and shooting 200 yards and out. Trying to hit within a few inches of the one inch dot. Braced. Will the ammo matter?
No .......just noammo is as good as the shooter is.
ammo is as good as the shooter is.
Specifically the AR15 shooting 223, steel case and shooting 200 yards and out. Trying to hit within a few inches of the one inch dot. Braced. Will the ammo matter?
I thought they had bi metal brass that was 62 their steel is 55?What's your gun like? Barrel length (material, profile), and twist rate would be a good start. Is the gun known to be accurate with *good* ammo so you'll know whether it's the steel cased ammo or not? You'll probably have to re-zero your optic, assuming you have one. Or just use the same hold position throughout, and see if the groupings are consistent.
I had decent luck with some of the Russian (Wolf, I think) 62gr steel case in my 20" 1:8 twist rifle. It's pretty accurate with most all ammo though
BruhIf your goal is to sink several into an 8" X 11" zone, then no. A hits a hit.
If you want a baseball sized group at 200+, then yes, ammo matters.
You might get minuets of pie plate with the cheap stuff.
Bruh
Nes.. i could shoot the cherry off a cigarette while u bang her from behind
a steel tula at 200yds from a non-gucci average rifle will give probably a 4-3 inch spread.AR15 shooting 223, steel case and shooting 200 yards and out
both my larues shoot m855 at 1-1.5 moa consistently. it is precise enough for m855.Nobody can make XM855 shoot precise , I don't care how good they are .
3" at 200 yards with an average rifle and steel case would be incredible to see. I'd consider 3" at 100 yards with steel case and an average rifle acceptable and what I would expect.a steel tula at 200yds from a non-gucci average rifle will give probably a 4-3 inch spread.
That stuff is probably Barnaul, another Russian ammo manufacturer. They are generally considered to have much better quality and consistency than Tula.
Specifically the AR15 shooting 223, steel case and shooting 200 yards and out. Trying to hit within a few inches of the one inch dot. Braced. Will the ammo matter?
That's my experience with this setup.3" at 200 yards with an average rifle and steel case would be incredible to see. I'd consider 3" at 100 yards with steel case and an average rifle acceptable and what I would expect.
ammo is as good as the shooter is.
Shooting at 25 yds doesn't count .both my larues shoot m855 at 1-1.5 moa consistently. it is precise enough for m855.
Wolf can still be made by Tula, Wolf is just the branding/importer. I'd say if you are zeroing at 200+yds with Tula, it might suck, because Tula can suck. Try some name brand brass cased stuff. Federal, Remington, etcIt's Wolf. Gun is is S&W Volunteer with 20 inch barrel. I'm trying to figure out if I have issues with my scope (vortex) or the ammo. Going to pick up some different ammo tomorrow to figure out what's going on.
If you can’t get decent groups with any run of the mill 55 grain (all from same box) then you have some other issue. Even good ammo, there are fliers here and there, sometimes it’s you, sometimes it’s something else.It's Wolf. Gun is is S&W Volunteer with 20 inch barrel. I'm trying to figure out if I have issues with my scope (vortex) or the ammo. Going to pick up some different ammo tomorrow to figure out what's going on.
Yup!!Wolf can still be made by Tula, Wolf is just the branding/importer. I'd say if you are zeroing at 200+yds with Tula, it might suck, because Tula can suck. Try some name brand brass cased stuff. Federal, Remington, etc
Nah never mind your correct...i was thinking of the black box stuff not that stuff
I miss this stuff