Australia: Buyback has no effect on murder rate

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Buyback has no effect on murder rate

Matthew Moore
October 24, 2006

HALF a billion dollars spent buying back hundreds of thousands of guns after the Port Arthur massacre had no effect on the homicide rate, says a study published in an influential British journal.

The report by two Australian academics, published in the British Journal of Criminology, said statistics gathered in the decade since Port Arthur showed gun deaths had been declining well before 1996 and the buyback of more than 600,000 mainly semi-automatic rifles and pump-action shotguns had made no difference in the rate of decline.

The only area where the package of Commonwealth and State laws, known as the National Firearms Agreement (NFA) may have had some impact was on the rate of suicide, but the study said the evidence was not clear and any reductions attributable to the new gun rules were slight.

"Homicide patterns (firearm and non-firearm) were not influenced by the NFA, the conclusion being that the gun buyback and restrictive legislative changes had no influence on firearm homicide in Australia," the study says.

In his first year in office, the Prime Minister, John Howard, forced through some of the world's toughest gun laws, including the national buyback scheme, after Martin Bryant used semi-automatic rifles to shoot dead 35 people at Port Arthur.

Although furious licensed gun-owners said the laws would have no impact because criminals would not hand in their guns, Mr Howard and others predicted the removal of so many guns from the community, and new laws making it harder to buy and keep guns, would lead to a reduction in all types of gun-related deaths.

One of the authors of the study, Jeanine Baker, said she knew in 1996 it would be impossible for years to know whether the Prime Minister or the shooters were right.

"I have been collecting data since 1996 … The decision was we would wait for a decade and then evaluate," she said.

The findings were clear, she said: "The policy has made no difference. There was a trend of declining deaths that has continued."

Dr Baker and her co-author, Samara McPhedran, declared their membership of gun groups in the article, something Dr Baker said they had done deliberately to make clear "who we are" and head off any possible criticism that they had hidden relevant details.

The significance of the article was not who had written it but the fact it had been published in a respected journal after the regular rigorous process of being peer reviewed, she said.

Politicians had assumed tighter gun laws would cut off the supply of guns to would-be criminals and that homicide rates would fall as a result, the study said. But more than 90 per cent of firearms used to commit homicide were not registered, their users were not licensed and they had been unaffected by the firearms agreement.

Dr Baker said many more lives would have been saved had the Government spent the $500 million on mental health or other programs rather than on destroying semi-automatic weapons.

She believed semi-automatic rifles should be available to shooters, although with tight restrictions such as those in place in New Zealand.

The director of the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics, Dr Don Weatherburn, said he was not surprised by the study. He said it showed "politicians would be well advised to claim success of their policies after they were evaluated, not before".
 
Do you all remember the results for Morton Grove Ill who imposed Strict Gun Control Laws? Violent crimes involving Firearms shot sky high as well as Break ins and robberies.
 
Way to go Austrailia....

She believed semi-automatic rifles should be available to shooters, although with tight restrictions such as those in place in New Zealand.

And the writer of the article still sounds a bit brainwashed... "tight restrictions"
 
There is no Constitutional right to bear arms in Australia, because there is no Constitution that addresses personal freedoms in the way that the United States' Constitution does. So, it is difficult to fault her for that point-of-view, she just needs to be a little enlightened.

But, yes, the buyback has done squat in Australia to reduce crime. Because, lo and behold, the criminals don't hand in their guns! I think I can think of one homicide committed - in Queensland, I think - where the shooter had a licensed weapon; the rest are mainly the organized crime boys shooting each other at gas stations in broad daylight and driving away.
 
The problem "down there" and in GB as well is there seems to be this
brain infection which is a combination of "severe hoplophobia" and "all
violence is bad, even if it is used to save a life" disease. I havent
quite figured out the origin of such a f*cked up mindset, but it is by far
the root cause. You talk about guns with the average AU/GB person and
they look you like you're trying to tell them the earth is flat, or
something. In the US the antis have to make up lies to sell their
case... in some of these other countries they can just get away with
saying "guns are bad" and then a bunch of people respond "yes we know" and
nod their heads in agreement without questioning anything.

The other thing I hate is the halfwits from those foreign countries are
like "we have a lower gun violence rate" or some crap... what they fail
to acknowledge is that their country is a "cake walk" socially compared
to the US. Most of them have far less economic, racial, and
social diversity than we do. And very few of them have the same level
of personal and fiduciary freedom that the US does. (although that gap
has been slowly narrowing over time due to more laws and regulatory
crap, more taxes ).


-Mike
 
Remember the quote: There is no reality, only perception.

Say it enough and the perception is that it's true.

Yeah, I agree... theres also that whole quote about

"Tell a lie enough times and eventually it will become the truth."

-Mike
 
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