I was given a few from a guy that has sold all his .308 bore rifles. I loaded them up w/ IMR4064 for my .308 HB. They were friggin' awesome. I used my normal 165gr load. I was at a pit and shooting 12ga hulls at 100 yards, no bench, just a harris bi-pod. I found them at Graf. 500 are $94.70 delivered. Now I need to see how they perform on game. I was getting low on .308 bullets (only 600 left) so the timing is perfect. What I have been shooting are now $25.00 to 32.00 per 100. My '81 BLR really likes 150gr, but I'm going to try these out for it also. 7.5x55, 7.5x54 are next.