Will H4895 fit the bill?

[crazymjb]

Here is what I want to do with it:
1. Load 30-06 garand loads with 150 and 168gr bullets. So far so good!
2. Load .308 precision loads with 168 and possibly 175gr bullets for use in a 16" barreled AR10
3. Load 75gr bthp bullets into .223 and possibly hotter loads for use in a 14.5" barreled AR for home defense.
4. Meter well in my dillon 550

I am looking for experience from those better versed in reloading than I. H4895 seems to fit the bill but being a stick powder I don't know how well it will meter in my 550. Id like to buy just one powder for the above tasks. I know the stuff works great in my garand with hand loads (47gr behind a 168gr bullet), but I just got a good deal on a used caliber conversion and would like to be able to churn out greater quantities for my garand, as well as the new AR10 build. I also want to start with these .223 "tap" clone loads.

As always input from the reloading veterans is greatly appreciated, as well as direction towards a different powder if neccessary.

Mike

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[gerrycaruso]

I stopped using stick powder to load .223, not because it wouldn't flow through the measure but because it would not always flow into that small case mouth. I now use Winchester 748 to load all the calibers you mentioned. I'm also trying WC844.

 

[pdrheat]

I have had good luck with Hodgdon Varget in my .223, .308 & 7.7 Jap.

 

[crazymjb]

I use pull down powder in my 55gr loads. I need a slower powder from what I am told to get the most out of the 75gr loads.

Does varget work well with 30-06 garand loads? What kind of powder is it, ball?

Mike

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[nheric]

My 308 Remington 700's favorite load is 42gr h4895 and 175 smk it will shoot.3 moa with ease using this load.I ran a test when i first started loading with h4895 i was using Varget previously with great results. I ran the powders head to head using its each best preforming loads. I dont remember the exact numbers but I was shooting slightly larger sized groups using with the Varget under 175gr smk .

 

[Glasgow Grin]

I use pull down powder in my 55gr loads. I need a slower powder from what I am told to get the most out of the 75gr loads.

Does varget work well with 30-06 garand loads? What kind of powder is it, ball?

Mike

Mike

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Varget works very well in the Garand. It is not a ball powder though.

 

[Woodstock]

Win 748 and Rx15 are popular for .223. AA2230 and AA2520 are spherical and flow well. The latter is recommended by Accurate for heavier bullets in the .223, and it's a favorite of the M1 and M1A match shooters that I know.

 

[xtry51]

Try the win748 or WC844 (if you can find it right now).

Stick powders are a little more finicky for metering in .223

 

[crazymjb]

I have plenty of wc844 I use for my lighter loads. I need something for the 30-06, 308, and 75gr 223. It looks like aa2520 may fit the bill, but Ill need to find some place that has it in stock and a few friends to go in on an order with me. My usual places are out of everything

Mike

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[mac1911]

Varget works well for me in my garand and 223 75gn match loads. its a stick powder but I have no problems with it metering in my hornady powder drop.

 

[Fixxah]

Varget is the go-to powder for my 30-06 and 5.56mm ammo. It is crunchy though as the rotor cuts through the sticks.

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[xtry51]

Learn to love the crunch

I'm going to be trying Varget for my nice .308 hunting ammo. I may have to give the 4895 a try and do a heads up as well.

 

[pdrheat]

I have used 4895 in my .308 & 7.7 Jap. They both liked it. I would advise you to get yourself a Lyman reload book. It says that 4895 can be used for .223. I have a Lee powder dispenser, but only use it for my pistol powders. It isn't consistant enough for my rifle loads. I am very fussy with them as I want accuracy so I weigh each load indivdually. Again, get youself a Lyman book.

 

[mac1911]

One plus is H4895 does well with reduced loads
www.hodgdon.com/PDF/H4895 Reduced Rifle Loads.pdf
I use it for my cast and fmj loads. I use a 147 gn pulled down bullet and reduced h4895 loads in my 1903a3 and mosin nagant. The reduced loads are great for younger and newer students getting behind a big gun.

 

[crazymjb]

So I have a source for powder and I am between Reloader15, Varget, and H4895. I looked into AA2520 but it seems to have a lot of temperature variation despite metering well.

Will any of these powders meter better than the other in a dillon powder measure? I do plan on churning out a lot of "rainy day" ammo for the ARs with the powder, in addition to my .308 and 30-06 needs.

Right now I'm leading towards Varget.

Mike

 

[willbdavis]

Man I wish I had some 4895. Can't find it anywhere. My Garand is sad.

 

[xtry51]

Everything I've seen says Varget is the most consistent across temps with high velocity.

That said I opted for RE15 because Varget is damn near impossible to find right now. I'm using the RE15 for 77gr Sierra .223 and my 180gr Barnes .308.

I use surplus 844 and 846 for my bulk m855 and m193 rainy day stashes.

 

[The Professor]

Man I wish I had some 4895. Can't find it anywhere. My Garand is sad.

I bought 2 pounds last Sunday at KTP. It was the last two. The clerk said there was more coming this past week.

Mark

 

[crazymjb]

So hows the varget measure through the dillon powder measure and do you guys have any problems with powder bridging and the .223 cases?

Mike

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[mac1911]

Man I wish I had some 4895. Can't find it anywhere. My Garand is sad.

Garands like varget also.

 

[afajvan]

Garands like varget also.

I can't find Varget anywhere.
I use IMR4895, with a 150gr FMJ, for my 03 Springfield, and cannot be happier. I picked up a bottle of H4895 2 weeks ago to try it out. That and I cannot find IMR4895 anywhere. Haven't loaded any yet, but I was told it is very similar to IMR. I also picked up a bottle of AR-Comp for my .223 loads. Hoping to work up some loads this weekend.
Work and the family have kept me busy this past month.
And I like the crunch.