Summer Travel

[60 buckscash]

It looks like the new wife and I will be visiting some of her family this July. Good news they are in Missouri, bad news a stop in NYC and then traveling through NJ. I think the easiest option for me will be to ship my carry gun and ammo to myself at her uncle's address. I have spent some time searching the forums and do apologize if I am blind but what requirements do I need to fulfill to ship my handgun to myself?

 

[jdubois]

Just send it UPS or Fedex. The requirements for Fedex are here, and the requirements for UPS are here.

 

[Jose]

Travel through NJ is not a problem. FOPA 86 applies. Overnight stop in NYC: BIG problem.

Stops for fuel, food, are still within the scope of peaceable travel.

 

[jdubois]

Travel through NJ is not a problem. FOPA 86 applies.

As long as you adhere to the requirements of § 926A.

 

[HooVooLoo]

It looks like the new wife and I will be visiting some of her family this July. Good news they are in Missouri, bad news a stop in NYC and then traveling through NJ. I think the easiest option for me will be to ship my carry gun and ammo to myself at her uncle's address. I have spent some time searching the forums and do apologize if I am blind but what requirements do I need to fulfill to ship my handgun to myself?

Give the following a gander, and then decide for yourself what the most feasible option would be for your situation...

From Title 38 of the NYC code...


Chapter 16 Transport or Delivery of Weapons
§ 16-01 Definitions
License Division. The term "License Division" shall mean the License Division of the
New York City Police Department.
Person. The term “person” shall mean an individual, firm, partnership, corporation,
company or other business entity, and shall include any common or contract carrier,
shipper, transport company, weapons manufacturer, distributor or dealer.
Police Commissioner. The term "Police Commissioner" shall mean the Police
Commissioner of the City of New York or her/his designee(s).
Transitory Shipment. For purposes of this chapter, the term “transitory shipment” shall
mean a shipment which begins outside of the City of New York, and moves continuously
and without interruption through the City of New York to a final destination outside of
the City of New York. A shipment which is within the City of New York and involves
any off-loading of the weapons from one means of transportation, followed by
subsequent on-loading of the weapons to another means of transportation, shall not be
considered a transitory shipment.
Unanticipated Delay. For purposes of this chapter, the term “unanticipated delay” is an
event involving the operator of a vehicle who intended to make a transitory shipment of
weapons when s/he entered the City of New York with a shipment of weapons, and
having done so, has experienced an unexpected mechanical problem, or other unexpected
condition or set of circumstances which causes the operator to remain within the City,
and off of a limited access highway, for a period of greater than one hour.
Weapon. For purposes of this chapter, the term “weapon” shall mean a “firearm,”
“rifle,” “shotgun,” or “machine-gun,” as those terms are defined in § 265.00 of the New
York State Penal Law and shall also include anything that is defined as an “assault
weapon” in § 10-301 of the New York City Administrative Code.
Weapons Dealer. For purposes of this chapter, the term “weapons dealer” shall mean
any person, firm, partnership, corporation or company who engages in the business of
purchasing, selling, keeping for sale, loaning, leasing, or in any manner disposing of any
weapon as defined in this chapter and who is licensed by the Police Commissioner
pursuant to Article 400 of the New York State Penal Law and/or § 10-302 of the New
York City Administrative Code.
§ 16-02 Applicability This chapter shall apply to all persons who transport or deliver
one or more weapons into or within any location in the City of New York, except that it
shall not apply to:
(a) the transitory shipment of weapons through New York City to a final
destination outside of New York City. However, if the operator of the vehicle containing
a transitory shipment of weapons experiences an unanticipated delay as that term is
defined in § 16-01 of this chapter, such operator shall immediately report to the nearest
Police Department facility the following information:
(1) her/his current location;
(2) the location of the transporting vehicle;
(3) the cause of the unanticipated delay;
(4) the expected duration of the shipment’s presence in the City; and
(5) how the shipment shall be secured during its stay in the City.
In the case of such delay, the officer receiving such notice may direct the vehicle operator
to take reasonably necessary measures to secure the weapons shipment, or the officer
may seize and secure the weapons until such time that the shipper makes alternative
arrangements which are acceptable to the officer.
(b) the shipment or delivery of five (5) or fewer weapons from one licensed
weapons dealer located in New York City directly to another licensed weapons dealer
located in New York City. However, the manner of storage of such weapons during their
transportation shall be in compliance with § 16-05 of this chapter.
§ 16-03 Authorization to Transport or Deliver Firearms (a) No person shall transport
or deliver, or cause to be transported or delivered, weapons into or within the City of
New York where s/he knows or has reasonable means of ascertaining what s/he is
transporting, without first obtaining written authorization to do so from the Police
Commissioner.
(b) A request by any person for authorization to transport or deliver weapons shall
be made in writing to the Commanding Officer, License Division, New York City Police
Department, One Police Plaza, Room 110A, New York, New York 10038, or by
Facsimile transmission (212) 374-2828, so as to be received by the License Division at
least ten (10) calendar days prior to the transportation within the City of New York. Such
request shall include the following information:
(1) The name and address of the source of the shipment of weapons. If the
source is a corporation, the name of the president or authorized representative of such
corporation shall be included.
(2) The number of weapons, including the manufacturer’s name, caliber,
and model identification, for each type of weapon being transported.
(3) The name of the shipping company, if different from the source of the
shipment, including the address and telephone number of the company’s headquarters.
(4) The day, date, and the estimated time and place of arrival of the
shipment into New York City.
(5) The name, address, and weapons dealer’s or gunsmith’s license
number of the person authorized to receive the shipment in New York City.
(6) The type of vehicle to be used by the source of the shipment, or the
shipping company, including any distinctive company logos or markings on the vehicle.
(7) A photocopy of the driver’s license of the person scheduled to make
the delivery, and a photocopy of the driver’s license of an alternate driver who may be
required by the source of the shipment, or the shipping company, to substitute for the
principally scheduled delivery person.
(8) The application for permission to transport weapons shall contain the
following statement, subscribed and sworn to by the applicant before a notary public,
commissioner of deeds, or other comparable official: “I, [Name] ------------ , the applicant
for permission to transport weapons within or through the City of New York, state that
such weapons shall be transported in an unloaded condition, and in a manner that
conforms with § 16-05 of Chapter 38 of the Rules of the City of New York, and if upon
inspection of the contents of the transporting vehicle it is discovered that such weapons
are not secured in a manner conforming with said section, then any permission issued by
virtue of this application shall be void and deemed to have never been granted, and it is
understood that I and any of my agents, employees, or assignees, may be prosecuted for
transporting weapons without permission pursuant to the New York State Penal Law and
the New York City Administrative Code, and that the property being transported as well
as the means of transport may be seized and forfeited pursuant to law.”
(c) If a person seeking permission to transport a weapon pursuant to this section
is utilizing a shipping company or other delivery service and is unable to provide
information relevant to paragraphs (4), (6) or (7) of subdivision (b) of this section, a
separate request for permission to transport shall be submitted by the shipping company
or delivery service, which shall include the required information.
(d) Upon receiving a request for authorization to transport or deliver weapons, the
Police Commissioner shall cause to be conducted a review of Police Department records
to ascertain whether the intended recipient of the weapons shipment or delivery is an
authorized person, and whether there exists any information which would otherwise
provide a basis for denying authorization to receive such weapons shipment. The Police
Commissioner or her/his designee shall then notify the requesting person that such
authorization has or has not been granted.
(e) In addition to any other applicable penalties, the Police Commissioner may
deny an application submitted pursuant to this chapter if the applicant has previously
failed to comply with the provisions of this chapter.
§ 16-04 Surrender of Firearms Not Authorized For Transportation or Delivery Any
person who transports or delivers weapons without obtaining authorization pursuant to
the requirements of this chapter shall be liable for the penalties set forth in Article 265 of
the New York State Penal Law and the New York City Administrative Code, and shall
further be directed by any member of the Police Department to surrender the weapons to
the Police Department. In addition, the property being transported, as well as the means
of transport, may be seized and forfeited pursuant to law.
§ 16-05 Required Security Measures for Weapons Shipments in Transit Any person,
corporation, partnership, or other business entity using a vehicle to transport weapons
within or through the City of New York shall, at a minimum, employ the following
security measures while such weapons are in transit:
(a) All weapons shall be transported unloaded.
(b) All weapons shall be placed in one or more containers located within the
vehicle used for transportation of the weapons. Such containers shall be constructed of
materials of such a sturdy character that when the container is closed and locked, it
cannot be forced open by hands alone, or sliced open with a common tool such as a knife
or box cutter.
(c) The above referenced container(s) shall be securely fastened, with a
combination or key locking device, to the interior body structure of the transporting
vehicle, in such a manner that the containers cannot be manually removed without
releasing the locks.
(d) Such containers, while in transit and carrying weapons, shall be closed and
locked with a heavy-duty combination or key-type lock.
(e) Ammunition shall not be stored in the same container as weapons.
(f) At all times other than loading and unloading, the cargo area of the
transporting vehicle in which all of the above referenced containers shall be stored shall
be closed and locked with a heavy-duty combination or key-type lock.
(g) The driver of the transporting vehicle shall carry a manifest which declares the
numbers and types of weapons being transported, and the intended point of delivery.
Such manifest shall not be considered valid unless it shall have written upon it the
permission serial number issued by the New York City Police Department License
Division.
(h) (1) The Police Commissioner may require, as a condition of the authorization
to transport or deliver weapons, that shipments of weapons which will be off-loaded from
one means of transportation and subsequently on-loaded to the same means or another
means of transportation within the city of New York, be escorted by a uniformed member
of the New York City Police Department, from the time of on-loading until such point
that the shipment has left the jurisdictional boundaries of the City of New York.
(2) If the Police Commissioner elects to impose the escort requirement as a
condition of the authorization to transport or deliver weapons, the applicant shall notify
the Commanding Officer, License Division, of the day, date, estimated time and place of
on-loading of the shipment to the second means of transportation. The escort
requirement shall be deemed waived if the escort is not present at the place within the
City of New York where the weapons will be on-loaded within thirty minutes of the
shipment’s estimated time of on-loading and departure.
§ 16-06 Requirement to Report Theft, Loss or Misdelivery
(a) Any person, firm, corporation, or other business entity who has received
permission to transport weapons pursuant to the provisions of this chapter, and who
suffers a loss or theft of any part of her/his weapons shipment while it is located within
New York City, shall forthwith report such loss or theft to the nearest Police Department
facility and shall comply with all reasonable requests for assistance by police officers
who investigate the circumstances of the loss or theft.
(b) Any person, firm, corporation or other business entity who has received
permission to transport weapons pursuant to the provisions of this chapter, and who
knows or reasonably should know that any part of her/his weapons shipment was
delivered to a person other than the person designated in § 16-03(b)(5) of this chapter,
shall forthwith report such misdelivery to the Police Department’s Operations Unit, at
(212) 374-5580.
Note: References within this chapter to masculine shall be presumed to include the
feminine and neuter. References to the singular shall be presumed to include the plural.