I started sorting/loading a bunch of 45 acp brass I got and all the speer shells look concave towards the primer pocket, just a little but it looks like external pressure not internal. They also are the only ones that tumble completely clean inside like they were never fired. Anybody have experience with this dishing on the bottom of a shell? Thanks
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Speer Brass
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I believe Speer and CCI are the same company and I have had trouble when trying to prime the brass. The pockets' edges are very square and the primers seem to catch an edge and go in hard.
The problem is worse with CCI primers, but it still happens even with Winchester.
There's enough .45 lying around so that I sort out the Speer and CCI stuff and don't load it.
The problem is worse with CCI primers, but it still happens even with Winchester.
There's enough .45 lying around so that I sort out the Speer and CCI stuff and don't load it.
I tried this.
When I load potentially crimped brass (9mm, .45 ACP, 223/5.56, etc) I keep the single stage press on my bench set up with an RCBS swaging die set up for the caliber I'm working. If I feel a primer going in hard, I'll yank the case out of my progressive and swage it real quick on the single stage.
The problem with the Speer/CCI stuff is that due to the concavity of the bottom of the case, they don't always swage right.
Since .45 ACP is so common, I find that these cases are more trouble than their worth, so I sort them out.
I simply make a quick turn with a case neck chamfering tool. It puts a slight bevel on the primer pocket and primer seating is no problem.
The new lead free ammo uses the small primer pockets. I toss it in my dead brass bucket!
The new lead free ammo uses the small primer pockets. I toss it in my dead brass bucket!
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I've noted speer/CCI .45 brass is harder to seat primers in, but compared to friggan S+B brass they're easy. S+Bs are so tight you think you're going to blow up/crush/set off the primer.
-Mike
Speer/CCI has square corners that make the initial seating tougher but once in they are easy.
I'm sure you know that most S&B are crimped pockets right? I swage or chamfer them if I'm reloading that brass.
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I have loaded a lot of Speer brass. I have buckets of it in 45ACP & 357 sig. I have an occasional problem but not a lot. I also use only Federal primers so that may make a difference.
As to the Small Pistol primer in 45ACP, these are in Non Tox Speer and Winchester as well as National Cartridge. It is lead free primer ammo.
For S&B, I have never had a problem with their brass either. That I load primarily in 357SIG. They have tight sealed primers, but I have never run into "crimped" primers and don't even own a swage for primer pockets.
Anyone throwing away Speer brass, throw it my way![[smile]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/001.gif "Smile [smile]")
As to the Small Pistol primer in 45ACP, these are in Non Tox Speer and Winchester as well as National Cartridge. It is lead free primer ammo.
For S&B, I have never had a problem with their brass either. That I load primarily in 357SIG. They have tight sealed primers, but I have never run into "crimped" primers and don't even own a swage for primer pockets.
Anyone throwing away Speer brass, throw it my way
